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Shopify is moving from React Native back to Swift and Kotlin

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Re: Shopify is moving from React Native back to Swift and Kotlin

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Post by pjerem »

knocte wrote: post #627
stingraycharles wrote: post #621

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think that AI would have made this confusion (it’s much less likely to overlook things like these), and I’m also not of the opinion that these comments confuse the two companies, it’s rather than Spotify is used by the grandparent as another example like Shopify.

Actually, the first occurrence might have just been a typo (auto-correct?), but the second occurrence looks like slop directed at the previous comment.

Actually, the IAs don’t mess up Shopify with Spotify.

Re: Shopify is moving from React Native back to Swift and Kotlin

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Post by golly_ned »

sashank_1509 wrote: post #599

Numbers from GPT Astra - Shopify has 3000 engineers as of 2026 - Google Chrome when released in 2008 conservatively had ~ 60 engineers. - GTA 5 in its credits had 150 software engineers. Surprising even to me who has had many an experience of being in a bloated FAANG team, this 150 includes GTA Online! In a sane society, Shopify’s opinion on anything engineering related would be thrown into rubbish because they seem…

This is wrongheaded in so many ways.

To start -- how many of those 3,000 engineers do you think work on the mobile app? And even among those who work on the app -- do you think they're all working on user quality-of-life and just can't get it right? And it's a $175BB company -- do you think it's worth that much based on the quality of its mobile app?

Re: Shopify is moving from React Native back to Swift and Kotlin

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Post by anon48293 »

knocte wrote: post #614
Vegenoid wrote: post #610

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spotify has progressively gotten much worse over the last 15 years, all while the size of their engineering team has ballooned. I am very unsurprised by this outcome. People wonder why good software becomes bad, and it’s because the people who were good at engineering are often outmaneuvered by corporate-politics savvy people in a growing company. One of the best political moves in a company is to have a lot of peopl…

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They don’t confuse them, he says both have the same issue.

Perhaps you are the AI slop?

Re: Shopify is moving from React Native back to Swift and Kotlin

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Post by jpk »

knocte wrote: post #614
Vegenoid wrote: post #610

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spotify has progressively gotten much worse over the last 15 years, all while the size of their engineering team has ballooned. I am very unsurprised by this outcome. People wonder why good software becomes bad, and it’s because the people who were good at engineering are often outmaneuvered by corporate-politics savvy people in a growing company. One of the best political moves in a company is to have a lot of peopl…

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The first comment in this thread drew a comparison between Spotify and Shopify. Perhaps you were skimming and missed it.

Re: Shopify is moving from React Native back to Swift and Kotlin

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Post by seaal »

anon48293 wrote: post #633
knocte wrote: post #614

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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They don’t confuse them, he says both have the same issue. Perhaps you are the AI slop?

Seriously, it’s funny how confident people can be about something despite their awful reading comprehension.

Re: Shopify is moving from React Native back to Swift and Kotlin

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Post by keithcarolus »

That Shopify employs 3,000 engineers is astounding.

I was rejected after a fairly basic ML interview at Shopify and when I asked for feedback I was told someday I could become a machine learning engineer.

I don’t think the interviewer read my resume or understood my responses as this was after working for several years in ML roles - staff applied ML and scientist.

So maybe that tells you something.

Re: Shopify is moving from React Native back to Swift and Kotlin

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Post by sashank_1509 »

knocte wrote: post #614
Vegenoid wrote: post #610

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spotify has progressively gotten much worse over the last 15 years, all while the size of their engineering team has ballooned. I am very unsurprised by this outcome. People wonder why good software becomes bad, and it’s because the people who were good at engineering are often outmaneuvered by corporate-politics savvy people in a growing company. One of the best political moves in a company is to have a lot of peopl…

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>> This is unfortunately not an isolated issue, Spotify for one has the same issue.

I just brought up Spotify since I have more experience using their app and they have also gone fully into “agents have made us 100X more productive”

Re: Shopify is moving from React Native back to Swift and Kotlin

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Post by felizuno »

Sorry not sorry RN was always the wrong choice, and I've made my money shipping React since 2013. Every RN project I've had to join has been a junk show and there is no way they operate more efficiently than 2 native teams. Don't even start me on Expo. Kotlin and Swift are nice, and ObjC/Java are still approachable IDK why people act like native is a big ask. I see people are in their feels already but I'm so glad so see Shopify stop carrying the RN banner, this makes giving the right advice to my clients easier.

Re: Shopify is moving from React Native back to Swift and Kotlin

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Post by Twisell »

InterviewFrog wrote: post #630
sidcool wrote: post #625

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Comments like these make me wonder if people don't understand the difference between engineering and business.

That’s what they said about Elon firing 80% of Twitter’s staff. But X is doing pretty well.

Twitter was never a profitable business. You actually renforce his point.

(Maybe that was intended I might have missed some irony here)

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