I am now moving my stuff to cloudflare. Worker, Pages, R2, D1, heck even Hyperdrive with Neon or Supabase.
Hetzner Price Adjustment
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#632My guess is that due to AI Hetzner are having to invest heavily in GPU servers and these price increases are to allow this investment.
There is a huge amount of vendor financing available for this exact reason.
Hetzner presumably have been making use of this for years already.
It's far more likely they simply began raising prices and realized the market would tolerate it.
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The beauty of supply and demand magic is that the market is now open for anyone that can provide server hosting cheaply.
I can't wait for a scrappy startup to spend a couple billion dollars and several years setting up a new fab for chips so we can see the prices go down!
Plenty of startups are doing exactly that. Perhaps not for your use case, but they do exist. Add to that, that china will eventually crack the ASML process and then there were three. Add some leaks and industrial espionage and then there were four. The market is a ninja, and we should be thankful for it!
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#634Prices are going insane, and I am going for an alternative provider in the US. I have 5 app nodes, 2 background workers, 1 DB replica, and 4 dev/staging instances. On new Hetzner US pricing: 5 x CCX23 (app nodes): $514.95/mo 2 x CCX13 (workers): $101.98/mo 1 x CCX23 (DB replica): $102.99/mo 4 x CX33 (dev/staging): $39.96/mo Total: ~$759/mo or $9,108/year On 3HCloud with equivalent specs: 5 x 16 GB 4 vCPU dedicated: $…
Thanks Liriel how stable are they and how is 3HCloud support?
So far I haven't had any trouble, and they have servers right where I need them.
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#636Earlier quoted context omitted.
I work on a desktop, but as a backup I have bought a refurbished Dell Latitude, there are a lot of decent ones for €250 on eBay. Put Linux on it, it’s good enough for most workloads. I just hope my top shelf 2020-era desktop doesn’t die on me because it would get very expensive to get a new build these days.
in the U.S & other regions it sucks cz you can hardly ever get static ip addresses at residential addresses to host things & expose to the internet
It’s almost like the stuff the IPv6 people and the P2P protocol people have said for 25 years was true and correct but nobody listened or cared.
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#637Prices are going insane, and I am going for an alternative provider in the US. I have 5 app nodes, 2 background workers, 1 DB replica, and 4 dev/staging instances. On new Hetzner US pricing: 5 x CCX23 (app nodes): $514.95/mo 2 x CCX13 (workers): $101.98/mo 1 x CCX23 (DB replica): $102.99/mo 4 x CX33 (dev/staging): $39.96/mo Total: ~$759/mo or $9,108/year On 3HCloud with equivalent specs: 5 x 16 GB 4 vCPU dedicated: $…
Also they're mostly a VPS provider with some "dedicated servers" available after you talk to sales. Hetzner is great because you can build from dedicated servers your own infra and not suffer the multi tenant issues on virtualized servers. (IOPS exhaustion for example)
What are you talking about? They have plenty of dedicated servers available at the click of a button...
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#638Ah yes the bait and switch. Didn't take long. Win some market share from unhappy AWS customers, hike the prices later
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#639Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can't wait for a scrappy startup to spend a couple billion dollars and several years setting up a new fab for chips so we can see the prices go down!
Plenty of startups are doing exactly that. Perhaps not for your use case, but they do exist. Add to that, that china will eventually crack the ASML process and then there were three. Add some leaks and industrial espionage and then there were four. The market is a ninja, and we should be thankful for it!
Which startups specifically are spending billions to build fab chips?
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It was never the same quality though. A VM at AWS or GCP is not even remotely comparable to a VPS at some low-end provider. Things like RAID, network/powersupply redundancy, internal privacy controls (nothing stopping a VPS provider from snooping in your filesystem), software patch quality, noisy neighbor mitigation, bandwidth quality, SLAs etc. Then all the value-added stuff like Terraform support, logging, monitori…
Yes, but Hetzner is not "some low-end provider". They have proper, high-quality datacenters with all the redundancy you want, excellent connectivity, great service, and much better privacy controls than any American company would be legally able to provide. Hetzner also offers instant scalability and has Terraform and Ansible support for infrastructure automation. We have some VMs on Azure and some on Hetzner, and th…
> much better privacy controls than any American company would be legally able to provide
Yeah, sure. They even MITM your TLS for extra privacy I suppose.