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Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Kimi 2.6 works roughly like Opus 4.6, when it used to work. Depending on the task, a bit better or a bit worse. And it's MUCH cheaper.

From this morning: I had a single go file with like 100 loc, I asked it to add debug prints, it thought for 5+ minutes, generating ~1m output token and did not actually update my file.

Which harness? Did you use OpenRouter?

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Is it? I’m curious because I thought they were raising prices to pay for exorbitant training costs, not because subscribers are expensive on a unit basis. I thought inference was cheap so there was little marginal cost of a new subscriber.

This was more or less true until everyone and their dog started running agents in a 24/7 busyloop as a bit.

You’re not doing that on a $20/mo plan.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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You need to onboard with your personal phone number at work? Why not with email?

Anthropic forces everyone to verify both.

I have a seat in my company's enterprise plan and never gave a phone number.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Because accounting software is cheaper due to competition. In software eng Claude is currently strongest and there's higher costs involved than normal SaaS. There are many fields in which the tools/machinery cost more than the salaries of people.

>Because accounting software is cheaper due to competition. In software eng Claude is currently strongest and there's higher costs involved than normal SaaS. Yes, competition not salaries determines the margins that software vendors can charge. That's exactly what I'm saying. My expectation is that competition between coding agents will stay strong and costs for the current level of software engineering performance w…

Agriculture, oil drilling, trucking, etc...

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Sooner or later, Anthropic will probably have to take this step if they want to actually make money. Either way, they're going to lose a huge chunk of their user base because of it. I currently have a private Pro subscription for $20; I can just barely justify that amount for my personal hobby projects. Work-wise, my employer provides all of that for me, so I don't really care - this is just for my personal needs. But at $100, I'm out. The subscription isn't worth it to me just to run a few prompts in Claude Code once a week (yes, I'm still one of those people who is actually capable of, and enjoys, writing code by hand). I do use Claude Chat as well, but the free plan is more than sufficient for my needs (never ran into any limit until now). I simply have zero interest in Cowork and any products other than Claude Code.

In short: if Claude Code is removed from the Pro plan, Claude in general will no longer be interesting for people like me.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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>Because accounting software is cheaper due to competition. In software eng Claude is currently strongest and there's higher costs involved than normal SaaS. Yes, competition not salaries determines the margins that software vendors can charge. That's exactly what I'm saying. My expectation is that competition between coding agents will stay strong and costs for the current level of software engineering performance w…

Agriculture, oil drilling, trucking, etc...

The machines in those sectors do not cost nearly as much as doing the same work manually. Not even close.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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pretty much none of these big providers are offering the guarantees needed to be taken seriously in workplaces right now. the technology itself isn't offering the deterministic guarantees that should warrant it in the workplace right now. problem is everyone's foot is just on the gas. even if your workplace isnt paying for it, people are just straight up rolling their own personal claude accounts to do work at orgs.…

What are you guys subscribed to if not Claude? Copilot? Or is everyone legit bringing their own license?

Copilot's per-prompt pricing model is overwhelmingly the best value for money right now, although they more than doubled the price of Opus 4.7 compared to 4.6 and completely removed 4.5 and 4.6, which erodes their lead somewhat. Copilot restricts context much more than CC, but I still find it to be plenty capable. I've occasionally managed to give Copilot/Opus 4.6 a prompt that kept it productive for a full work day for a cost of just ~$0.10.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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I have a Claude Pro tier subscription; Claude Code, as of right now, is still functional for me. If Anthropic does boot Pro-tier users off Claude Code, I will be cancelling my subscription.

Indeed. Codex on $20/m is incredibly usable. Lots of value. My anthropic subscription keeps being worth less and less.

I'd almost bet that OpenAI will do the same thing with its plans as soon as Anthropic makes the first move. It's just a matter of who blinks first.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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I didn't think Amazon engaged in dumping.

It took about 9 years of losses before they got profitable, which is the exact mechanism I talked about.

Dumping and losing money overall are different. Selling $100 bill for $10 is dumping.
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