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People inside Microsoft are fighting to drop mandatory Microsoft Account

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Re: People inside Microsoft are fighting to drop mandatory Microsoft Account

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Post by Rapzid »

asah wrote: post #539
Rapzid wrote: post #64

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As someone with a sizeable background in Linux system engineering.. I prefer Windows to MacOS. It's IMHO a better desktop now with the edge snap tile layout and etc. Excellent device compatibility. And I get my linux environment needs satisfied via WSL2 these days. But damn if they don't get in their own way. I have my own Pro licenses, and even with Pro turning off ads and features is text book whack-a-mole: * Frequ…

LOL, any __ONE__ of those would be a deal-killer for me. The sum is so WTF I can't understand how anyone willingly chooses Windows over... anything. (mind you, MacOS has its own nightmares from KeyChain hell, iCloud crap, signed apps etc - but I can use my Mac laptop without iCloud/etc and go weeks without thinking about Apple)

Could be because I don't like "tinkering" with my desktop OS. I'm either:

* Configuring and operating them professionally as part of a larger system. I have "The Linux Programming Interface" and "Windows Internals" sitting right next to each other right next to me.

* Using productivity software professionally or for hobby.

* Doing leisure activities like gaming, reading, etc.

These annoyances are like 0.001% of my interaction with the OS. While super annoying, they are mostly brief and can be worked around(mechanics car though). The value proposition for me is still super high and better than the alternatives for me.

Probably the biggest negative impact on me is how these problems feed the flood of "Microslop" slop drowning out more interesting discourse.

Re: People inside Microsoft are fighting to drop mandatory Microsoft Account

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Post by Helmut10001 »

aprilnya wrote: post #515
Helmut10001 wrote: post #259

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I found virtual files support also somewhat critical. This is not really stable on Linux yet and makes using Nextcloud with 8TB and Million of files pretty difficult.

What are you using for virtual files? I definitely found it to work much much better when I added Nextcloud through Gnome’s settings rather than the Nextcloud client

You mean via WebDav? That is definitly an option, but then it is not possible anymore to mix working file directories within Nextcloud. E.g. I have a long list of ignored files for nextcloud [1], such as .git folder etc.

I would need to create a separate file tree, splitting my work between nextcloud maintained files and working files. That feels cumbersome. On Windows, I could directly add my whole drive to nextcloud as a virtual file system.

[1]: https://gist.github.com/Sieboldianus/280afdb2f994fae6e5f6b18...

Re: People inside Microsoft are fighting to drop mandatory Microsoft Account

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Post by Fizz43 »

Peaches4Rent wrote: post #540
skipants wrote: post #268

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> 1) Kernel-level DRM for multiplayer games (looking at you, Marathon) This finally forced me to quit League of Legends (this is a buff)

Welcome to the superior MOBA side. Come! dota and deadlock welcome you

Dealing drugs like this in broad daylight. People have become so brazen

Re: People inside Microsoft are fighting to drop mandatory Microsoft Account

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Post by bowsamic »

anal_reactor wrote: post #512
bowsamic wrote: post #456

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> I'm incapable of doing basic operations in Finder or changing basic system settings, and random shit I didn't want to press pops up when I'm doing other things Why?

Because the interface is very counter-intuitive. I don't have any other explanation. In Windows, KDE and Gnome I eventually "get there" with Gnome being my least favorite, while MacOS feels like vibecoded "my first UI". Also, the Macbook keyboard is fucked. I constantly press buttons I didn't mean to. This literally never happened to me on any other device. And that's after years of using a Macbook.

I’m sure you can learn how to use it

Re: People inside Microsoft are fighting to drop mandatory Microsoft Account

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Post by brookst »

legacynl wrote: post #576
brookst wrote: post #548

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As someone who had a brand new M1 MBP stolen from a San Jose coworking space. I am 100% in favor of the this having at best some parts and not a working computer.

I do hope you understand that 'bad thing X happened to me, therefore any measure to prevent X is good' is a logical fallacy? "As someone who had a brand new mbp stolen from me, I'm personally 100% in favor of the remote-c4 installed in every mbp. Just imagine if he could have accessed my banking information?"

Nice. Now do the same thing with "as someone who lost a loved one to a drunk driver, I think harsh penalties and license revocations are a good policy." You can probably find a similar straw man to apply?

Re: People inside Microsoft are fighting to drop mandatory Microsoft Account

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Post by pipes »

ikidd wrote: post #153
pipes wrote: post #19

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I've done this several times over the last 18 years or so. The most recent was a few months a go. And my steamdeck persuaded me. Unfortunately I ran into the same WiFi networking issue I've never managed to resolve. Even on different hardware. Pings to my default gateway are ridiculously slow compared to windows. I spent countless hours trying to resolve. I gave up and have gone with windows 11 ltsc.

You can mess around or go buy a $10 gbit USB dongle that you know works like a tplink.

I was thinking same thing. But it is a tplink pci card, with the right drivers.

Re: People inside Microsoft are fighting to drop mandatory Microsoft Account

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Post by pipes »

slekker wrote: post #472
pipes wrote: post #19

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I've done this several times over the last 18 years or so. The most recent was a few months a go. And my steamdeck persuaded me. Unfortunately I ran into the same WiFi networking issue I've never managed to resolve. Even on different hardware. Pings to my default gateway are ridiculously slow compared to windows. I spent countless hours trying to resolve. I gave up and have gone with windows 11 ltsc.

I had a problem with a Realtek wifi card, where it would become slow for a few seconds every couple of minutes, had to disable a setting , maybe it helps you: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Network_configuration/Wirel...

I would have looked at this if I hadn't already jumped ship. It sounds like the problem I was having.

Re: People inside Microsoft are fighting to drop mandatory Microsoft Account

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Post by pipes »

ninjagoo wrote: post #508
pipes wrote: post #19

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I've done this several times over the last 18 years or so. The most recent was a few months a go. And my steamdeck persuaded me. Unfortunately I ran into the same WiFi networking issue I've never managed to resolve. Even on different hardware. Pings to my default gateway are ridiculously slow compared to windows. I spent countless hours trying to resolve. I gave up and have gone with windows 11 ltsc.

> Pings to my default gateway You have a non-default gateway in addition to a default one?

To fair I'm using windows terminology when I say default gateway, I just mean the router supplied by my isp

Re: People inside Microsoft are fighting to drop mandatory Microsoft Account

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Post by unleaded »

SpaceNugget wrote: post #628
unleaded wrote: post #545

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My sentiment with windows (likely shared by most people here consciously using it) is that it's a good OS at heart somwhere. The core of it is very solid and has been for a while, and most of the crap parts that people complain about (see above) are "tacked on" to it and could fairly easily be removed/reverted if Microsoft wanted to (in fact they already have done, see IoT Enterprise LTSC and Windows Server), and it…

If by "conciously using it" means picking it over the alternatives and not using it while unconcious, then yes presumably that subset of people prefer it over the alternatives. That's pretty circular reasoning. Most people who actively choose to use linux also think that linux is a good os. And I think most linux users would pretty strongly disagree that it's easier to fix windows, a user hostile, closed source opera…

>If by "conciously using it" means picking it over the alternatives and not using it while unconcious, then yes presumably that subset of people prefer it over the alternatives. That's pretty circular reasoning. Most people who actively choose to use linux also think that linux is a good os.

I'm not saying people who use it think it's better, I don't know where you picked that up from. I'm pointing out the awkward, strained relationship between its users. Like, "it's shit, but it could be so much less shit if Microsoft got their act together!". That sort of sentiment.

>And I think most linux users would pretty strongly disagree that it's easier to fix windows, a user hostile, closed source operating system with far fewer options for every single user facing aspect of the OS than linux. You have that completely backwards.

The other replies are confused by what i meant by this as well. Obviously it's easier to add a driver or patch a problem than on Windows, but the Linux ecosystem is fundamentally fragmented. You can't really boss people around when you're not paying them, so as a result there are a hundred different ways to do the same things. This is one of Linux's greatest strengths, but also a big weakness as people can't really agree on how to integrate things when it's important.

There is no real solution to this problem that I can think of.

Re: People inside Microsoft are fighting to drop mandatory Microsoft Account

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Post by Atlas26 »

quyse wrote: post #470
Atlas26 wrote: post #453

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> I always hear people say nothing sticks after an update but have literally only encountered that with Microsoft Edge and the default search engine. Not any of the Windows features disabled or configured by the script. Not sure if it’s just outdated or a meme being repeated by non-Windows users but in any case it is not at all what I’ve experienced exclusively running debloated Windows 11 installs for years. Yup. Fr…

I had Windows on a Lenovo laptop, and Windows update installed and/or re-enabled Lenovo system services almost every time (those included things like popups helpfully telling you that you pressed CapsLock and crap like this). I ran debloating scripts, tried fiddling with policies, etc, but Windows Update would inevitably bring those services back. Another thing is Intel drivers. There's official Intel driver assistan…

This is guaranteed just to be windows reinstalling drivers it thinks the laptop needs by default for basica functionality (it is considering the Lenovo service a standard system driver like the Intel ones since sometimes those are used to enable custom key and other functionality, so it makes sense to be a default driver so everything works out of the box for non technical customers). This is easily disabled by simply setting group policy manager to not automatically install drivers.

I’ll happily shit on windows endlessly but I can’t fault them for this, I think with the windows driver model this makes sense, otherwise you’re gonna have a ton of issues cropping up for normal users, especially since power users can always disable the policy. That was always one of the first policies I set and it never gave me any issues or automatically reinstalled unwanted/standard drivers again.

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