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New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

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Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

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post #283

Most of the bots I've caught on here don't really use em dashes at all. For example, here's an active bot that posted 30 mins ago (as of this comment): https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=aplomb1026 Examine the last two detailed comments it made and you'll see the timestamps show they were posted https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47155655 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47155648 If it wasn't for them misc…

That first bot _did_ actually use an em dash in a comment:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47170066

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

#632

Fwiw I did some more comparisons, looking for words disproportionately favored by noob comments: word noob new p-value ---------------------------- ai 14.93% 7.87% p=0.00016 actually 12.53% 5.34% p=1.1e-05 code 11.47% 6.04% p=0.00081 real 10.93% 2.95% p=2.6e-08 built 10.93% 2.11% p=2.1e-10 data 8.93% 3.51% p=6.1e-05 tools 7.6% 2.67% p=5.5e-05 agent 7.47% 2.95% p=0.00024 app 7.2% 3.09% p=0.00078 tool 6.8% 1.83% p=8.5e…

Maybe slightly harder to test for, but one thing that LLMs love to do also is making comma-separated (with a final “and”) lists with three items. It looks good, sounds human, and has just the right size—not too long, not too short.

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

#633

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allow me to introduce my friend – turned smiley here he is: ´◡` (quite useful for brackets ´◡`) you can find him on windows by pressing Win + ; not as fast as typing, but quite faster then typing and then wondering if thats too much brackets or too little

I love kaomoji so I use this on occasion but nothing can match the subtle passive aggressiveness and level of expression unmatched by anything else :)

You're really on to something there (-:

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

#634

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Interesting use of "Aunt Jemima" that nobody caught on, why did you use this particularly, afaik it doesn't exist anymore for being "racist"?

I didn't know it was discontinued in 2021. It was my favorite maple syrup growing up.

From what I read, it just got re-branded, not discontinued.

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

#635
post #315

Biggest tell that a comment is AI: it's deeply uninteresting. No one wants to read your ChatGPT outputs.

Not sure if serious but I don't think that's precisely it. To me, it's more that it rehashes a point until it's fully beaten to death, putting obvious aspects in a list, being subtly wrong, writing a conclusion paragraph to the previous three sentences... it's boring but not because of what it writes but, instead, how it writes it. Of course, it can also be inherently uninteresting but then you should have entered a…

> disingenuous pretending at human experience; alluding vaguely to "that [relatable experience]" and hoping we won't notice that there is clearly no actual knowledge of the qualia it tries to invoke

> subtly detached or glossed-over metaphors

> feels empty

> alluding to things without actually talking about them

> using many words to say nothing

https://v-n-n-v.github.io/chatgpt-voice.html

See also: https://i.vgy.me/ZIxnSh.png

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

#636
post #348

This feels like an existential threat to HN, and to the general concept of anonymous online discourse. Trust in the platform is foundational, and without it the whole thing falls down. Requiring proof of identity is the only solution I can think of, despite how unappealing it is. And even then, you'll still have people handing their account over to an LLM. I really struggle to imagine a way around it. It could be tha…

I don't feel like using HN anymore, I hope the just add invites, last time I said this someone replied it's just the same as some other site then, but it's not... hn is hn...this situation is really bumming me out.

Looks like http://lobste.rs is it. I haven't been invited, and I' not really sure I should be, but I'm having a very nice time just reading.

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

#637

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I find various verbal tics come and go in my speech and writing over time. Lately "I mean" has been jumping out at me. It really only bothers me when I notice I've used it for multiple comments in the same thread or, worse, multiple times in the same comment.

I used to use honestly quite a bit and then noticed how unnecessary it was (does it ever improve a sentence?) and how overused it is on Reddit. I've also pretty much dropped just from my vocabulary when I'm talking about an alternative way to do something.

I mean, it just wasn't actually that useful, honestly.

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

#638
post #461
post #248

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> four bland messages That's why. Boring, bland, etc. That account's M.O. is basically "write a paragraph that says nothing." Fwiw, I do think AI can be indistinguishable from dumb, boring people, but usually those kinds of people won't be on HN.

Oh we are on HN, just usually don't comment.

Hey, dont't insult me! I finally got my downvote privilege after 6 years and I'm NOT afraid of using it!

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

#639

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2040 at Wal-Mart: - Customer: Excuse me, I'm looking for the Aunt Jemima maple syrup. Can you point me in the right direction? - Employee: y u ask like chatbot

Interesting use of "Aunt Jemima" that nobody caught on, why did you use this particularly, afaik it doesn't exist anymore for being "racist"?

I caught on but was more offended by referring to it as 'maple syrup'

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

#640

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The result for "ai" is possibly skewed because it's a far more popular talking point in recent times versus HN's history as a whole.

Both samples are of recent comments.

But the newer commenters most probably could be younger
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