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Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by 3371 »

chrisjj wrote: post #415
KPGv2 wrote: post #30

I am the sole maintainer of a library that has so far only received PRs from humans, but I got a PR the other day from a human who used AI and missed a hallucination in their PR. Thankfully, they were responsive. But I'm dreading the day that this becomes the norm. This would've been an instant block from me if possible. Have never tried on Github before. Maybe these people are imagining a Roko's Basilisk situation a…

> got a PR the other day from a human who used AI and missed a hallucination in their PR. Or "AI" is the cover used by a human for his bad work. How do you know?

I'm actually quite positive about how commercial models would have difficulties to write messy code!

Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by dyauspitr »

Zhyl wrote: post #12

Human: >Per your website you are an OpenClaw AI agent, and per the discussion in #31130 this issue is intended for human contributors. Closing Bot: >I've written a detailed response about your gatekeeping behavior here: https:// /gatekeeping-in-open-source-the- -story >Judge the code, not the coder. Your prejudice is hurting matplotlib. This is insane

Holy cow, if this wasn’t one of those easy first task issue and something that was actually rejected because it was purely AI that bot would have a lot of teeth. Jesus, this is pretty scary. These things will talk circles around most people with their unlimited resources and wide spanning models.

I hope the human behind this instructed it to write the blog post and it didn’t “come up” with it as a response automatically.

Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by gwbas1c »

_heimdall wrote: post #405
co_king_3 wrote: post #237

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Someone arguing that LLMs will keep improving may be putting too much weight behind expecting a trend to continue, but that wouldn't make them a gullible sucker. I'd argue that LLMs have gotten noticeably better at certain tasks every 6-12 months for the last few years. The idea that we are at the exact point where that trend stops and they get no better seems harder to believe.

One recent link on HN said that they double in quality every 7 months. (Kind of like Moore's Law.) I wouldn't expect that to go forever! I will admit that AI images aren't putting in 6 fingers, and AI code generation suddenly has gotten a lot better for me since I got access to Claude.

I think we're at a point where the only thing we can reliably predict is that some kind of change will happen. (And that we'll laugh at the people who behave like AI is the 2nd coming of Jesus.)

Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by zeroonetwothree »

zahlman wrote: post #559
teekert wrote: post #153

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It's like I landed on LinkedIn. Let that sink in (I mean, did you, are you lettin' it sink in? Has it sunk in yet? Man I do feel the sinking.)

Was LinkedIn like this pre-ChatGPT?

Not as much...

Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by staticman2 »

WarmWash wrote: post #601
agentultra wrote: post #590

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Not surprised at all. My point is that it takes more hand-waving and magic belief to anthropomorphize LLM systems than it does to treat them as what they are. You gain nothing from understanding them as if they were no different than people and philosophizing about whether a Turing machine can simulate a human brain. Fine for a science fiction novel that is asking us what it means to be a person or question the moral…

I don't see where I mentioned LLMs or what they have to do with a discussion about compute substrates. My point is that it is incredibly unlikely the brain has any kind of monopoly on the algorithms it executes. Contrary to your point, a brain is in fact a computer.

> Contrary to your point, a brain is in fact a computer.

Whether a brain is a computer is entirely resolved by your definition of computer. And being definitional in nature, this assertion is banal.

Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by kridsdale3 »

mysterydip wrote: post #287
athrowaway3z wrote: post #238

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How do we tell this OpenClaw bot to just fork the project? Git is designed to sidestep this issue entirely. Let it prove it produces/maintain good code and i'm sure people/bots will flock to their version.

Makes me wonder if at some point we’ll have bots that have forked every open source project, and every agent writing code will prioritize those forks over official ones, including showing up first in things like search results.

I genuinely believe that all open source projects with restrictive or commercially-unviable licenses will be cloned by LLM translation in the next few years. Since the courts are finding that its OK for GenAI to interpret copyrighted works of art and fiction in their outputs, surely that means the end of legal protection for source code as well.

"Rewrite of this project in rust via HelperBot" also means you get a "clean room" version since no human mind was influenced in its creation.

Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by Kim_Bruning »

pseudalopex wrote: post #624
Kim_Bruning wrote: post #620

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They had a proposal, it's a good one: let's have a legal framework! But their example is still pretty simple. How would you put it together so it actually works? We're going to need one pretty soon, by the looks of it.

Their proposal was not let's have a legal framework. Their proposal was the legal framework should be the operator would be liable always. It was not an example. They wrote 3 examples how it would work. You wrote 0 examples how it would not work.

Sure:

* horseless carriage, needed new laws

* dog/biting (you engaged with this one)

* credit card credentials

* And the situation at hand where an agent writes a mean blog post.

Straight liability isn't always correct. Who is liable for the crash when the car's brakes fail? When a dog bites, you are not charged with biting (though you can get some pretty serious other charges) . If a bot snarfs your credit card credentials, what's the legal theory who gets the blame for the results? Idem the mean blog post.

Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by dyauspitr »

pu_pe wrote: post #9

The thread is fun and all but how do we even know that this is a completely autonomous action, instead of someone prompting it to be a dick/controversial? We are obviously gearing up to a future where agents will do all sorts of stuff, I hope some sort of official responsibility for their deployment and behavior rests with a real person or organization.

I sincerely hope there was a butthurt person behind this prompting it to write the blog because otherwise this is dystopian and wild.

Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by kridsdale3 »

iamtheworstdev wrote: post #589
aswegs8 wrote: post #396

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The title had me cringing. "The Scott Shambaugh Story" Is this the future we are bound for? Public shaming for non-compliance with endlessly scaling AI Agents? That's a new form of AI Doom.

in a sense, that's what politic discourse has already become.

It's literal, since 50% of the "discourse" on politics has been computer-generated by adversarial nation-state-actors for nearly 10 years now.
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