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Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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What is it then if its not just my feelings? Can you give me some specific principle to go by? When is it OK for me to decide that someone else's possessions should be mine?

If you can justify it from behind the Rawlsian veil of ignorance while taking the categorical imperative into account, and any other universal moral meta–rules that you may be aware of that I'm not

I have no idea what any of that means

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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John Kiriakou Openly claims he was mossad in recent interviews. Also look up Israel’s relationship with pedophilia (being a safe haven for the accused and convicted). You’ll find plenty of Jewish in isreal media sources reporting on this.

The antisemitism is here. Pedophilia is essentially legal in Europe with the age of consent in many countries.

Shocking this is downvoted with the age of consent being 15 in countries like France.

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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I was referring to Hypocrisy News' response to getting a bunch of downvotes in quick succession.

I know that it's against the guidelines to make comparisons to Reddit, but this is exactly what I frequently see there. People complaining about 4 downvotes and telling everyone how they are being silenced for being truthful in the sea of lies, or whatever else. Very, very often this is some form of lashing out and has no basis in any reality.

Hypocrisy News is just a politer version, with fewer bots.

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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In 2000 flying from Mumbai to Frankfurt I got upgraded to 1st class and ended up sitting next to the CEO of a smaller pharma company. He got a little drunk and opened up about why he was always in Mumbai instead of Europe or US. Lower costs for human testing were only a small part of it, the real reason was weak and unenforced regulations. And he could easily pay a consultant to bribe the officials. Part of the probl…

mRNA vaccines are the new dangerous experiment in Pharma.

https://www.sciencealert.com/largest-covid-vaccine-study-eve...

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/study-largely-confirms-kno...

It is awesome that India blocked these dangerous vaccines to be sold in India.

In fact, did you know?.. The Western Big Pharma companies got full indemnity in USA, UK, Europe and many other nations for their COVID vaccines. This means that they cannot be sued for any impacts (loss of life, side effect, hospitalization bills, loss of job, etc.) caused by those vaccines.

But when those Western Big Pharma companies wanted to sell their unproven mRNA-based COVID vaccines in India, the Modi government refused to give them any indemnity, because even the Indian (non-mRNA) COVID vaccine manufactures did not get indemnity.

So the Western Big Pharma finally decided not to sell their COVID vaccines in India, because they KNEW their vaccines and technology (mRNA based vaccine) were unproven and could kill or hurt (side effects).

But the cowardly Western Big Pharma had their revenge. They lobbied with the Western powers and got bans imposed on India's COVID vaccines to be sold in the Western nations.

Ironically, India is the only nation that gave its lifesaving COVID vaccines for free or at discounts to poor or developing nations!

Whereas the uber rich Western powers and their greedy powerful Big Pharma were hoarding their COVID vaccines and refused to give them freely to the poor nations.

Thus, when the world suffered one of its worst crisis ever, it was India that stood tall as a beacon of hope and support to the world.

It is no wonder that PM Modi is the most respected world leader now. He is refusing to bow down to bullies, and he is helping the weak.

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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The antisemitism is here. Pedophilia is essentially legal in Europe with the age of consent in many countries.

Shocking this is downvoted with the age of consent being 15 in countries like France.

The age of consent is 16 in many US states, FWIW.

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

#636

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If you can justify it from behind the Rawlsian veil of ignorance while taking the categorical imperative into account, and any other universal moral meta–rules that you may be aware of that I'm not

I have no idea what any of that means

That's fine, you can leave it to philosophers if you want or you can go and learn it. I only referenced two principles and they both have Wikipedia pages. But don't make no effort to learn how people think about objective morality and then complain nobody knows anything about objective morality.

I'll even link them for you:

The veil of ignorance says you should design morals for a society as if you don't know which position you'll be in in that society. If you want to know if it's moral to feed people to crocodiles, imagine that your mind and soul is placed into a random body in the world where people are fed to crocodiles. You might be feeding someone to a crocodile, you might be fed to a crocodile, and in some versions you might be the crocodile. If you had the choice to live in that world but you don't know which one you'll be, would you take it? If you wouldn't because the chance feels bad to you, that's a sign it's objectively immoral.

Categorical imperative: follow rules that you'd be okay with everyone following all the time. Suppose you're very hungry and you see a supermarket and you steal a loaf of bread. Is this moral? "Everyone should steal food" quickly breaks down commerce and isn't good. "Very hungry people with no money should steal bread" works well enough because most people aren't very hungry with no money. We can say it's moral for very hungry people with no money to steal bread. "Very hungry people with no money should just die" works too, but it fails the other principle: that could be you who dies, and you'd rather be allowed to steal bread to prevent death.

These might be different versions of the same principle but I'm not philosophically savvy enough to know that so I'm stating both.

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Listen to what you're saying. Thermodynamics doesn't apply to the body? So what, I'm a perpetual motion machine?

The mechanisms in the body are not heat engines. The stuff is so tiny that it works basically by reshuffling molecules, so the traditional concept of efficiency doesn't really apply, as the amount of stuff that happens is given by integral math. You get this amount of charges from reshuffling this amount of molecules. The type of stuff that can be done is limited by how hard the stuff sticks together. Anyway, the cor…

So what you're saying is the laws of thermodynamics that I learned in school don't apply to biological systems?

I'm admittedly in no position to argue deeply about biology, or even physics for that matter, because I studied mechanical engineering. I dealt with physics in an applied manner.

With that said, this story comes to mind:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angus_Barbieri

It seems to disagree with your idea that fat is not fuel. And the first law of Thermo seemed to be applying to this man. He had little to no energy input (via food) and a baseline energy expenditure from just existing, so his system burned stored energy via body fat.

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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Only you are saying 'Jews'. The OP mentioned the Israeli secret service. These are not the same, even if the government of Israel deliberately conflates them. I think we need to start calling out this deliberate attempt from the Israeli government to correlate the two.

The OP also mentioned Epstein, a Jew, and then made the leap that he must have been associated with Mossad.

Yes, totally a leap. Just check out the list of coincidences that Schmerika made in this thread. Epstein could have been a Nigerian spy as much as a Mossad one, am I right?

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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The antisemitism is here. Pedophilia is essentially legal in Europe with the age of consent in many countries.

Shocking this is downvoted with the age of consent being 15 in countries like France.

Not low enough for them :^)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_petitions_against_age-o...

Re: The time I didn't meet Jeffrey Epstein

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As a “European” you are happy to simply fabricate an unsubstantiated conspiracy involving the Jews.

Only you are saying 'Jews'. The OP mentioned the Israeli secret service. These are not the same, even if the government of Israel deliberately conflates them. I think we need to start calling out this deliberate attempt from the Israeli government to correlate the two.

It’s very easy to create proxies for any group you hate, just pick something that applies mostly only to that group - or something that haters of that group claim applies to that group and then say you only hate that and not the group.

Jews can be in opposition to the current government of Israel while still recognize when someone is picking specifically on the only Jewish state, and doing so obsessively and irrationally.

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