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Opus 4.5 is not the normal AI agent experience that I have had thus far

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Re: Opus 4.5 is not the normal AI agent experience that I have had thus far

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Post by smetj »

hollowturtle wrote: post #626
maciejzj wrote: post #604

I've been on a small adventure of posting more actively on HN since the release of Gemini 3, trying to stir debate around the more “societal” aspects of what's going on with AI. Regardless of how much you value Cloud Code technically, there is no denying that it has/will have huge impact. If technology knowledge and development are commoditised and distributed via subscription, huge societal changes are going to happ…

I don't buy the huge impact, should already have happened and didn't actually happened by now. The day I'll see all these ai hypers producing products that will replace current gen/old gen products like Windows, Excel etc I will buy it, for now it's just hype and ai dooming

it is happening, just not everywhere at the same time at once

Re: Opus 4.5 is not the normal AI agent experience that I have had thus far

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Post by imiric »

weatherlite wrote: post #617
maciejzj wrote: post #604

I've been on a small adventure of posting more actively on HN since the release of Gemini 3, trying to stir debate around the more “societal” aspects of what's going on with AI. Regardless of how much you value Cloud Code technically, there is no denying that it has/will have huge impact. If technology knowledge and development are commoditised and distributed via subscription, huge societal changes are going to happ…

UBI (from taxing big tech) and retraining. In the U.S they'll have enough money to do this and it will still suck and many people won't recover the extreme loss of status and income (after we've been told our income and status are the most important things in life it's gonna be very hard for people to adapt to the loss of it). Countries like India and Philipines and Ukraine which are basically knowledge support hub w…

> UBI (from taxing big tech)

If you think those in power will pass regulations that make them less wealthy, I have a bridge to sell you.

Besides, there's no chance something like UBI will ever be a reality in countries where people consider socialism to be a threat to their way of life.

Re: Opus 4.5 is not the normal AI agent experience that I have had thus far

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Post by noisy_boy »

All great until the code in production pushed by Opus 314.15 breaks and Opus 602.21, despite it's many tries, can't fix it and ends it with "I apologize". That's when you need a developer who can be told "fix it". But what if all the developers then are "Opus 600+ certified" ai-native and are completely incapable of working without it's assistance? World powers decide to open the forbidden vault in the Arctic and despite many warnings on the chamber, decide to raise the foul-mouthed programmer-demon called Torvalds....

Re: Opus 4.5 is not the normal AI agent experience that I have had thus far

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Post by mmkos »

hollowturtle wrote: post #626
maciejzj wrote: post #604

I've been on a small adventure of posting more actively on HN since the release of Gemini 3, trying to stir debate around the more “societal” aspects of what's going on with AI. Regardless of how much you value Cloud Code technically, there is no denying that it has/will have huge impact. If technology knowledge and development are commoditised and distributed via subscription, huge societal changes are going to happ…

I don't buy the huge impact, should already have happened and didn't actually happened by now. The day I'll see all these ai hypers producing products that will replace current gen/old gen products like Windows, Excel etc I will buy it, for now it's just hype and ai dooming

I see societal changes like container ships turning. Society has a massive cultural momentum so of course not much has changed today, but we'll have seen big changes years from now. The tools are only just getting really good at what they do.

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Post by hollowturtle »

simonw wrote: post #327
mattfrommars wrote: post #301

I’ve been saying this a countless time, LLM are great to build toy and experimental projects. I’m not shaming but I personally need to know if my sentiment is correct or not or I just don’t know how to use LLMs Can vibe coder gurus create operating system from scratch that competes with Linux and make it generate code that basically isn’t Linux since LLM are trained on said the source code … Also all this on $20 plan…

Your bar for being impressed by coding agents is "can build a novel operating system that competes with Linux on a plan that costs a $20/month"? Yeah, they can't do that.

In fact, like the author of the comment said, can just generated toys and experimental projects. I'm all in for experiments and exploring ideas, but I have yet to see a great product all vibe coded. All I see is a constand decline in software quality

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Post by randunel »

noisy_boy wrote: post #621
weatherlite wrote: post #617

Earlier quoted context omitted.

UBI (from taxing big tech) and retraining. In the U.S they'll have enough money to do this and it will still suck and many people won't recover the extreme loss of status and income (after we've been told our income and status are the most important things in life it's gonna be very hard for people to adapt to the loss of it). Countries like India and Philipines and Ukraine which are basically knowledge support hub w…

Also, time to tax for AI use. Introduce AI usage disclosures for corporations. If a company's AI usage is X, they should pay Y tax because that effectively means they didn't employ Z people instead and the society has to take care of them via unemployment benefits and what not. The more the AI usage, higher the tax percentage on a sliding scale.

I live in a country which does something similar with (legally) disabled employees. All companies with more than 30 employees must have at least 1 employee who is legally disabled (certificate of disability) in every 50 employees. It's OK if you don't, but the company is mandated to pay an additional salary in tax for each missing disability certificate.

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Post by sensanaty »

dbspin wrote: post #625
weatherlite wrote: post #617

Earlier quoted context omitted.

UBI (from taxing big tech) and retraining. In the U.S they'll have enough money to do this and it will still suck and many people won't recover the extreme loss of status and income (after we've been told our income and status are the most important things in life it's gonna be very hard for people to adapt to the loss of it). Countries like India and Philipines and Ukraine which are basically knowledge support hub w…

Retraining to what exactly? The middle class is being hollowed out globally - so reduced demand for the service economy. If we get effective humanoid robots (seems inevitable) and reliable AI (powered by armies of low payed workers filling in the gaps / taking over whenever the model fails), I'm not sure how much of an economy we could have for 'retraining' into. There are only so many onlyfans subscriptions / patron…

At a certain point people will break, and these sociopathic C-suites will be the first ones on the chopping block. Of course, that's why the biggest degenerates like Zucc are all off building doomsday bunkers, but I don't see a reality in which people put up with these types of conditions for long.

That said, it'll certainly get much, much worse before it starts getting better. I guess the best we can hope for is that the kids find a way out of the hell these psychos paved for us all.

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Post by hollowturtle »

smetj wrote: post #631
hollowturtle wrote: post #626

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't buy the huge impact, should already have happened and didn't actually happened by now. The day I'll see all these ai hypers producing products that will replace current gen/old gen products like Windows, Excel etc I will buy it, for now it's just hype and ai dooming

it is happening, just not everywhere at the same time at once

Where are the products then? Otherwise it's just marketing

Re: Opus 4.5 is not the normal AI agent experience that I have had thus far

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Post by joncrocks »

cheschire wrote: post #613
maciejzj wrote: post #604

I've been on a small adventure of posting more actively on HN since the release of Gemini 3, trying to stir debate around the more “societal” aspects of what's going on with AI. Regardless of how much you value Cloud Code technically, there is no denying that it has/will have huge impact. If technology knowledge and development are commoditised and distributed via subscription, huge societal changes are going to happ…

I’ve been thinking, what if all this robotics work doesn’t result in AI automating the real world, but instead results in third world slavery without the first world wages or immigration concerns anymore? Connect the world with reliable internet, then build a high tech remote control facility in Bangladesh and outsource plumbing, electrical work, housekeeping, dog watching, truck driving, etc etc No AGI necessary. Th…

This was/is the plot to a movie - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_Dealer
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