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Google is dead. Where do we go now?

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Re: Google is dead. Where do we go now?

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Post by laszlojamf »

xbmcuser wrote: post #520
cookiengineer wrote: post #278

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I had a very interesting discussion with a friend today, where I was talking to her about the /r/golang thread about Rob Pike's comments to OpenAI and how the thread was full of bots talking with other bots. No idea why the density of bots was so high in that thread, it was kind of absurd to see. Then she said: "I know nobody that comments on online forums. Nobody would ever comment to strangers on the internet. It's…

Most of her friends are probably women. Try making an account with an obvious female name and you will see a marked difference on most social platforms I am saying this as a guy we really don't understand the world women live in online or offline.

funny story: I got the wife of a friend to install tinder, a couple of years back when I was dating. I was having a hard time getting matches, so I figured I'd see how the other side lives. She created an empty profile, with a blurry hippopotamus as a profile picture, and a single letter as name. Just "H". For hippopotamus. No bio. Within five minutes she was matching with every other guy she swiped right on. Which wasn't all of them, mind you. Within another five minutes, half of the guys she had matched with had messaged her. Regular looking guys. A lot of them had same opening line. "Did you know hippos are the most dangerous animal in the world?" After that, I got why I wasn't getting any replies >.<

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Post by NooneAtAll3 »

BrenBarn wrote: post #592
iseanstevens wrote: post #349

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Yeah LiveJournal (my username there is lightfixer) really came close to replicating how we actually social. Deciding who is able to see what I posted on an individual level was great. Could create groups etc.

In retrospect LiveJournal was pretty great as a social network of its time. It's too bad it got turned into some kind of Russian spam site.

it was russian twitter

and twitter is a spam site, so you're somewhat right

Re: Google is dead. Where do we go now?

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Post by acka »

geysersam wrote: post #584
nostrademons wrote: post #160

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In my anecdotal experience, it's moved to private, trust-based channels: iMessage, WhatsApp, email, face-to-face interactions. Our 30-year bender of putting our lives online and blurring the public and the private has finally ended: people don't want to be online, don't trust social media, don't really trust any media, and are living simple local lives with a small circle of friends that they get together with regula…

> If everybody bought only what they needed and ignored all the advertisements, our present level of economic activity would plunge. Why would it plunge instead of re-focusing on things that are intrinsically important?

> Why would it plunge instead of re-focusing on things that are intrinsically important?

Because a lot of the economy is focused on creating and maintaining a surplus[1]: make people buy things that they don't really need, make them discard and replace things that they've been convinced are no longer worth it.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surplus%3A_Terrorized_into_Bei...

Re: Google is dead. Where do we go now?

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Post by NooneAtAll3 »

yunwal wrote: post #479
__turbobrew__ wrote: post #241

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Discord is really where it is at these days. Discord servers with 50-100 people form the new social fabric of the internet where real community lies. In theory Reddit was supposed to be this but 1. Reddit communities tend to get too large 2. Subreddits overflow into each other too much through cross posting and brigading 3. Post history being public meant that you could get banned/brigaded for your comments on a tota…

The culture on discords tend to be way better than anywhere else on the internet, but discord really sucks to use. Somehow still doesn’t have a usable search, really underpowered notifications control, they have the worst pop ups imaginable that seem to just float on top of the whole interface and make it impossible to use. I really wish something better would come along.

> Somehow still doesn’t have a usable search

worst part is that it used to :/

Re: Google is dead. Where do we go now?

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Post by Seattle3503 »

esseph wrote: post #553
emodendroket wrote: post #375

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> 3. Post history being public meant that you could get banned/brigaded for your comments on a totally different subreddit (i.e. bots autobanning you on one subreddit for posting on another subreddit). You can make it private now. Personally I think this is a bit of a misfeature since it ends up helping all the low-activity users showing up to post political agitprop in local subreddits, thinly-veiled advertisers, et…

It's not really, you can just Google search and find all their posts and comments.

There is also Project Arctic Shift.

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Post by safety1st »

tomjuggler wrote: post #604
safety1st wrote: post #601

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Hmm, the URL appears to have changed since I commented. It was originally a .co.za. Now it's fast. Perhaps there was a CDN issue (I am in a country that is definitely not material to his business)

I updated CloudFlare settings, yes. Seems to have worked?

Looks like it, site loads within 1 second now!

Re: Google is dead. Where do we go now?

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Post by goosebumps »

SunshineTheCat wrote: post #61

I recently took someone to go and watch a hockey game. Been a little while but I personally played as a goalie myself. The person kept making the comment that she couldn't see/find the puck and it made it frustrating to watch. As a goalie, not being able to see the puck is pretty normal (especially with big bodies trying to screen you). What I told her was that what matters a lot more than where the puck is, is where…

So, The King is dead long live the King!

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Post by bambax »

laszlojamf wrote: post #631
xbmcuser wrote: post #520

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Most of her friends are probably women. Try making an account with an obvious female name and you will see a marked difference on most social platforms I am saying this as a guy we really don't understand the world women live in online or offline.

funny story: I got the wife of a friend to install tinder, a couple of years back when I was dating. I was having a hard time getting matches, so I figured I'd see how the other side lives. She created an empty profile, with a blurry hippopotamus as a profile picture, and a single letter as name. Just "H". For hippopotamus. No bio. Within five minutes she was matching with every other guy she swiped right on. Which w…

You can try creating a profile as a woman. I did, five years ago, on a site that advertised itself as being dedicated to "affairs" between married people.

All I said was I was 20, was red haired, and open minded. Nothing more, and no photo.

Indeed, within a couple of minutes there were guys asking me if I liked to be whipped while handcuffed to a radiator, and offered to send me dick picks if I sent naked photos first. One of them added later "maybe I'm too direct for you, is that why you're silent?"

I didn't respond to any message, but the offers kept coming. It's insane.

Re: Google is dead. Where do we go now?

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Post by weatherlite »

imron wrote: post #596
crazygringo wrote: post #579

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Again, then why are people using Google more than ever? I don't really see how "dead internet theory" explains that . If it were as bad as you claim, surely usage would be plummeting? But it's just the opposite.

Are you sure it’s _people_ driving this increase? Dead internet theory means real users are declining while bot users are skyrocketing. For example google search is such a terrible experience these days that I’ll often ask an LLM instead. That LLM may do multiple google and other searches on my behalf, combine, collate and present me with just the information I am looking for, bypassing the search experience entirely…

> Are you sure it’s _people_ driving this increase?

Most likely - yes. If Google has been dead for years people wouldn't pour hundreds of billions of dollars into ads there. The Search revenue keeps increasing, even since ChatGPT showed up. It might stagnate soon or even decrease a bit - but "death" ? The numbers don't back this up. One blog saying he stops paying for Google ads conflicts with the reality of around 200 billion yearly revenue from Search.

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