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Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by BoredPositron »

quchen wrote: post #46
miki_oomiri wrote: post #39

If I were the CEO, I would: - focus 100% on Firefox Desktop & Mobile - just a fast solid minimalist browser (no AI, no BS) - other features should be addons - privacy centric - builtin, first-class, adblocker - run on donations - partner with Kagi - layoff 80% of the non-tech employees I worked for them for many years, I guarantee you that Mozilla will be fine without all the non-sense people, just put engineers in c…

To expand on Firefox mobile: if you haven’t tried it, give it a shot. uBlock Origin works just like on desktop. I have seen maybe five ads on my phone browser (including Youtube!) since buying it in 2019.

...on android.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by dabockster »

LexiMax wrote: post #366
homebrewer wrote: post #315

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Brave is 100% FOSS. At least the client side, I've not looked into their server applications. https://github.com/brave

Fair enough. I'd still be very hesitant to use it on account of it being a chrome fork. Moreover, I don't really understand how Brave expects to be a viable business without deeply betraying their userbase at some point. It admittedly is a gut feeling, but Brave started out with a browser and some handwavy crypto magic beans and seemed like it careened from idea to idea looking for a business model, occasionally step…

Your points are valid. But what made me finally switch was that it is open source, that it has been out for roughly a decade now, and that Brendan Eich's opinions from 2014 are mostly based on his Catholic faith at the time (which obviously is likely to have changed/evolved now that we're a decade later).

> Moreover, I don't really understand how Brave expects to be a viable business without deeply betraying their userbase at some point.

They have a way better merch store than Mozilla. They should expand that.

"MERCHANDISING! Where the real money from the movie is made!"

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by dabockster »

__loam wrote: post #605
netdevphoenix wrote: post #118

I love Mozilla but this feels like marketing imo. From the article: "AI should always be a choice — something people can easily turn off" and "Firefox will remain our anchor. It will evolve into a modern AI browser". I highly doubt you will be able to turn of the transformer tech features in an AI browser imo. And they won't make a separate browser for this. This really feels like the beginning of the end for Mozilla…

Safari lol

Safari has like 20% market share right now. The only thing holding it back is that it's Mac only. If Apple got a Windows version going again, it'd eat Chrome for lunch.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by dabockster »

Fiveplus wrote: post #7

Does anyone else feel like the "Trust" angle is the only card they have left to play? Technically, Chrome is faster on JS benchmarks. Edge has better OS integration on Windows and comes by default. Safari wins on battery life on Mac. Firefox's only unique selling point is "We aren't a massive data vampire." If they clutter the browser with AI which inherently requires data processing, often in the cloud, they dilute…

> Firefox's only unique selling point is "We aren't a massive data vampire."

The fact that they haven't moved away from apparently needing 90%+ of their money to come from Google, after more than a decade of that being an issue, means that claim is a moot point. This "AI first" move was probably heavily influenced by Google behind the scenes too.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by dabockster »

ksec wrote: post #72
Fiveplus wrote: post #7

Does anyone else feel like the "Trust" angle is the only card they have left to play? Technically, Chrome is faster on JS benchmarks. Edge has better OS integration on Windows and comes by default. Safari wins on battery life on Mac. Firefox's only unique selling point is "We aren't a massive data vampire." If they clutter the browser with AI which inherently requires data processing, often in the cloud, they dilute…

>Technically..... Since its birth, Firefox is still the only browser that manage multiple ( hundreds or in some cases, thousands! [1] ) tabs better than any browser. And in my view in the past 12 - 24 months Firefox has managed to be as fast as chrome. While Chrome also improved on its multiple Tab browsing experience. Safari.... I dont know why this battery life argument keeps coming up because it is not the case. I…

I think Brave has the potential to be the next Firefox if they can run their company right.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by BoredPositron »

pentagrama wrote: post #276

At least he seems focused on Firefox. Hopefully this translates into clearer direction for Firefox and better execution across the company, instead of pushing multiple micro products that are likely destined to fail, as Mozilla has done over the past 5+ years. From his LinkedIn profile [1], his recent roles have been consistently centered on Firefox: Chief Executive Officer Dec 2025 - Present · 1 mo ------- General M…

He rarely held a job for more than a year and a half throughout his entire career...

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by dabockster »

alberth wrote: post #25

Dumb question: who’s Firefox target user? Chrome is able to capture the mass consumer market, due to Google’s dark pattern to nag you to install Chrome anytime you’re on a Google property. Edge target enterprise Fortune 500 user, who is required to use Microsoft/Office 365 at work (and its deep security permission ties to SharePoint). Safari has Mac/iOS audience via being the default on those platform (and deep platf…

> I just don’t genuine understand who it’s for anymore.

It still gets bundled a TON on Linux. So if you use Linux a lot, Firefox gets into your muscle memory.

But honestly, that bundling is likely just momentum from the 2010s. Better tech exists now.

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by somebodythere »

avazhi wrote: post #270
high_na_euv wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Translation? Image search? Live captions? Dubbing? Summary? Rewrite text better?

Translate sure. Image search? I have a search engine for that. Live captions? Didn’t ask for that, wouldn’t use it. Dubbing? Ditto. Summary? Wouldn’t trust an AI for that, plus it’s just more tik-tokification. No fucking thanks. I don’t need to experience life as short blips of everything. Rewrite text better? Might as well kill myself once I’m ready to let a predictive text bot write shit in my place. So… no thanks.

You personally wouldn't use live captions and dubbing, so there's no point building it for the millions of people who need it as an accessibility feature?

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by dabockster »

neom wrote: post #26
abcd_f wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They had one. Until he made a fatal mistake of giving a tenner to the wrong people.

He gave $1000 donation to support a ban on gay marriage, to be clear.

In 2014, which is over a decade ago now.

Wikipedia also says he's Catholic. From what I understand, the Church's positions on such things have evolved at least somewhat since then. His views could have totally changed or evolved since then (can't find anything publicly myself).

Re: Mozilla appoints new CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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Post by dabockster »

sharps1 wrote: post #244
jsheard wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But then he went on to make Yet Another Chromium Fork, so it doesn't seem like he was particularly attached to Gecko or what it stands for in the browser engine market anyway. What's to say that Mozilla wouldn't have given up the fight and pivoted to Chromium, like Opera and Edge did, if he was still in charge?

They originally started with Gecko and switched to Chromium. "There were a ton of issues using Gecko, starting with (at the time) no CDM (HTML5 DRM module) so no HD video content from the major studios, Netflix, Amazon, etc. -- Firefox had an Adobe deal but it was not transferable or transferred to any other browser that used Gecko -- and running the gamut of paper-cuts to major web incompatibilities especially on mo…

And nowadays, I'd argue that there's more human eyeballs watching the Chromium source code vs the Firefox code.
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