> Over the weekend, Rodrigo Arias Mallo, creator of the Dillo browser project...
This is wrong, that is the current maintainer. Jorge Arellano Cid is the creator of Dillo.
Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service
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Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service
#632Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am surprised by the comments about GH CI. I first started using CI on GL, then moved to GH and found GH's to let me get things done more easily. It's been years through and the ease of doing simple things is not always indicative of difficult things. Often quite the contrary...
From what I gather it's that GH Actions is good for easy scenarios: single line building, unit tests, etc. When your CI pipeline starts getting complicated or has a bunch of moving parts, not only do you need to rearchitect parts of it, but you lose a lot of stability.
Bingo. GH Actions is great if you're deploying vanilla web stuff to a vanilla web server. I write firmware. GH Actions is hell.
Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service
#633We need a fediverse app for version control.
Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service
#634I think once Codeberg becomes federated, it will likely attract a lot of people. Right now github is great for discovering and tracking projects, reflecting growth via the star and fork system (although a bit broken in the last few years). If a federated layer is applied to these github alternatives, you could have an account in Codeberg, and be able to track lots of projects wherever people want to host them. Right…
We need a fediverse app for version control.
Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service
#635Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do people actually use GitHub to inspect code? I figure for anything that's not a 1-second lookup, I might as well just do at least a shallow clone of the repo, and look through it with my own personally-tailored editor instead. Not to say their implementation doesn't suck. I just wouldn't know because even a non-buggy one would probably still be a subpar experience.
For my own PRs I like reading the changes again in the UI. It is almost like getting someone else to proofread it since my mind isn’t as good at filling in the blanks like it is when looking at the code in the editor I wrote it in.
I do the same.
Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service
#636Earlier quoted context omitted.
I like a language that aggressively discourages writing code in Notepad on Windows.
Every text editor on windows adds a carriage return by default. You haven't given any actual reasons this makes sense, if you don't like windows why would you be using it in the first place? Why would you care what text editor people use? Why would it be ok to release something on a platform just to annoy your own users?
>Every text editor on windows adds a carriage return by default.
Either you should know your tool well enough to turn it off, or tools shouldn't make obscure changes to the output that the user did not specify, either way Zig is absolutely correct in not allowing for either case, I wasn't aware of this but it makes me even more convinced of their principles.
The expurgation of "losers" less so.
Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service
#637It is "Andrew KELLEY", not "Andrew KELLY"!
Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service
#638Earlier quoted context omitted.
Every text editor on windows adds a carriage return by default. You haven't given any actual reasons this makes sense, if you don't like windows why would you be using it in the first place? Why would you care what text editor people use? Why would it be ok to release something on a platform just to annoy your own users?
>Every text editor on windows adds a carriage return by default. Either you should know your tool well enough to turn it off, or tools shouldn't make obscure changes to the output that the user did not specify, either way Zig is absolutely correct in not allowing for either case, I wasn't aware of this but it makes me even more convinced of their principles. The expurgation of "losers" less so.
Either you should know your tool well enough to turn it off,
Everyone can do that and by saying this you have already missed the point.
You think literally all windows text is "obscure changes to the output"? Have you ever used windows? All text you have ever saved has a carriage return in it.
Zig is absolutely correct in not allowing for either case
Then why does every other language, text editor and text tool in existence deal with this single extra character?
I wasn't aware of this but it makes me even more convinced of their principles.
Which are what exactly? Making a windows version that doesn't work to intentionally annoy their users?
There is no rationalization you can come up with that isn't hypocritical here unless you admit that you just like malice towards windows users, because that's all it is.
The expurgation of "losers" less so.
Who are losers here? Zig users who tried it on windows or people who know what a carriage return is?
Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service
#639Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Every text editor on windows adds a carriage return by default. Either you should know your tool well enough to turn it off, or tools shouldn't make obscure changes to the output that the user did not specify, either way Zig is absolutely correct in not allowing for either case, I wasn't aware of this but it makes me even more convinced of their principles. The expurgation of "losers" less so.
Either you should know your tool well enough to turn it off, Everyone can do that and by saying this you have already missed the point. You think literally all windows text is "obscure changes to the output"? Have you ever used windows? All text you have ever saved has a carriage return in it. Zig is absolutely correct in not allowing for either case Then why does every other language, text editor and text tool in ex…
>Who are losers here?
Evidently you did not read the original release or the top comment, but this has nothing to do with carriage return.
>Then why does every other language, text editor and text tool in existence deal with this single extra character?
On Windows, Emacs by default will save your files with linefeed and no carriage return, only when opening the file will it infer crlf, as it should.
But you're right, where possible I try to avoid Windows.
Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service
#640Earlier quoted context omitted.
Either you should know your tool well enough to turn it off, Everyone can do that and by saying this you have already missed the point. You think literally all windows text is "obscure changes to the output"? Have you ever used windows? All text you have ever saved has a carriage return in it. Zig is absolutely correct in not allowing for either case Then why does every other language, text editor and text tool in ex…
>Who are losers here? Evidently you did not read the original release or the top comment, but this has nothing to do with carriage return. >Then why does every other language, text editor and text tool in existence deal with this single extra character? On Windows, Emacs by default will save your files with linefeed and no carriage return, only when opening the file will it infer crlf, as it should. But you're right,…
Evidently you did not read the original release or the top comment, but this has nothing to do with carriage return.
You replied 5 comments deep in a thread about zig intentionally annoying users by erroring out on something simple that every other program or library on windows deals with automatically.
But you're right, where possible I try to avoid Windows.
You're backpedaling now. Originally you were trying to rationalize someone intentionally releasing a broken program to troll people.