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Re: Bring bathroom doors back to hotels

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

ruszki wrote: post #532
tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #494

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, this is just about washing machines, not washer-dryers or doing both in sequence. Due to ecodesign legislation, I would assume that all machines that can be legally sold in the EU would count as "uses less water" in the US. The dishwashers are another can of worms. My last one had an EU and a non-EU program, and you quickly learned to pick the "non-efficient" one if you actually wanted clean dishes.

My experience with dishwashers is that there are bad and good ones regardless of country. I had terrible and great dishwashers in the US, Australia, and Europe (basically in all countries there). The same with washing machines.

My Bosch is slow but the results are always good. I rarely resort to the quick program.

Re: Bring bathroom doors back to hotels

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Post by nunez »

I usually stay 50+ nights/year at hotels all across the value spectrum and haven't thought about this until now! Proper bathroom doors _are_ hard to come by.

"There has to be a safety/design reason for this," I thought. And, sure enough, there is: https://old.reddit.com/r/hotels/comments/1gmearh/hotel_desig...

TL;DR: Sliding doors are an easier way to keep hotel rooms up to code long-term than doors that need to be refitted/redesigned if the room changes.

To me, what's more annoying than sliding bathroom doors (which honestly haven't bothered me that much, though I usually travel alone) are:

1) Sliding shower doors that are ill-fitted and don't close properly, and

2) Bathrooms without proper ventilation (though I learned why vent fans are uncommon in hotels in the US: https://old.reddit.com/r/CasualConversation/comments/18z9sd0...)

Re: Bring bathroom doors back to hotels

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Post by LorenPechtel »

jmye wrote: post #366
godelski wrote: post #293

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Also even in the single person case I want to have the bathroom door closed when I take a shower because it keeps the heat in. Which is why I also dislike (most of) the barn door style doors. I can't be the only one that likes to step out of the shower and into a nice and steamy room. Like what, you want to step out and be cold? That's masochistic. Not to mention no door doesn't bother me with another person because…

I don’t know how to ask this without it seeming like snark, but as genuinely as I can ask (and with the assumption that we otherwise agree there should just be a door): Why don’t you just turn on the heat in the room?

The temperature that's comfortable when stepping out of the shower is not the same as the temperature that's comfortable after you have dried off and put something on.

Re: Bring bathroom doors back to hotels

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Post by op00to »

olyjohn wrote: post #73
op00to wrote: post #55

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People make noise when they piss and shit. It’s not scandalous.

Well, I still don't wanna make everybody in the room have to listen to my grunts as I push out an unhealthy binge-drinking hangover turd followed by a liter of flatulent gas and and liquid spraying into the bowl. I like my privacy, kthx.

How will we know your digestive health otherwise?

Re: Bring bathroom doors back to hotels

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Post by LorenPechtel »

hammock wrote: post #189
akersten wrote: post #3

It's not about saving a few bucks on a door. It's about discouraging you and your friends from sharing a single room. Hotel sees the money they're leaving on the table and will trade you for it for the low price of watching your buddies do their business.

The Standard in NYC has a straight up clear glass wall between the shower and the bed. Very sexy. Very not good for platonic friends sharing a room :)

I've seen that in some hotel rooms in China.

Re: Bring bathroom doors back to hotels

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Post by rsynnott »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #630
rsynnott wrote: post #564

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> my laundry room has a vent and I’ve heard that heat pump tech still isn’t good enough Heat pump dryers are in a slightly weird place in that they're boring old tech in Europe (they've been common for over a decade), and exciting new tech in the US. This means that dryers made for US preferences (physically larger, either three phase or <1500W, etc) are generally first or second models (and thus unreliable) while th…

I thought Europe used condensation and heat pump tech was still a new thing? Ok, 1997 with wide adoption around 2007 according to Google. I really wanted to give it a try, but with a vent right there it just didn’t seem worth it.

Really depends on how expensive your electricity is; a modern heat pump dryer consumes about 1kWh to dry an 8kg load, vs 2-3kWh for either vented or conventional condenser. Though, also depends on what's available to you and at what cost; my impression is that decent heat pump dryers are still very expensive in the US. My fairly high end Bosch one cost about 550eur this year; looking at Bosch's US website the roughly equivalent US model seems to cost $1500, somehow. That's around what they cost here 10-15 years ago.

The other advantage of heat pump dryers is that they operate at lower temperatures than the other types (so damage clothes less); on the negative side, they're slower.

Re: Bring bathroom doors back to hotels

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Post by LorenPechtel »

mr3martinis wrote: post #610

At least in the US, the design choice of barn door or no door might also be driven by ADA compliance. You have to provide a lot of space to meet all the accessibility requirements and a hinged door can make the minimum square footage much higher than you’d think.

I think that's the real answer. ADA-compliant doors will not fit in many smaller hotel rooms.

Re: Bring bathroom doors back to hotels

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

rsynnott wrote: post #637
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #630

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought Europe used condensation and heat pump tech was still a new thing? Ok, 1997 with wide adoption around 2007 according to Google. I really wanted to give it a try, but with a vent right there it just didn’t seem worth it.

Really depends on how expensive your electricity is; a modern heat pump dryer consumes about 1kWh to dry an 8kg load, vs 2-3kWh for either vented or conventional condenser. Though, also depends on what's available to you and at what cost; my impression is that decent heat pump dryers are still very expensive in the US. My fairly high end Bosch one cost about 550eur this year; looking at Bosch's US website the roughly…

Electricity is cheap here, 12 cents/KwH. I more liked the not ruining clothes aspect and not using the vent means I can get the unit closer to the wall. But I was worried about the smell complaints, my wife is really strict on that, also we have a combo so we can’t pipeline loads anymore. The drawback is that only Samsung makes a vented combo, an Samsung doesn’t have the best reputation. Heat pump was cheaper than vented in a combo at least, but only by 1-2 hundred bucks.

Re: Bring bathroom doors back to hotels

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Post by lucgommans »

crazygringo wrote: post #627
lucgommans wrote: post #153

More than 200 hotels already on this website. Wouldn't this be much more useful as an OpenStreetMap tag so people can find and share these good/bad hotels in whatever front-end they like? There does not seem to be a tag for it yet. That there are apparently hundreds of instances, and it being definitely something you'd want to select for, makes me think it's a good fit for OSM. Currently, hotels can already have tags…

The list doesn't seem to be accurate. I looked at a few and found zero evidence of missing bathroom doors in reviews or photos. One even had a review complaining the bathroom door was broken and not closing fully... indicating it is actually there.

The website has no open data license so this isn't usable for OSM, even if we wanted to. I just meant to propose collaborating on an existing platform where we already have a lot of data about physical features, rather than erecting an ephemeral platform for this special purpose
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