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Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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Post by atoav »

suzdude wrote: post #614

Mel Brooks had the right of it. Fascism and Authoritarianism is defeated by satire and mockery. The ideology is too outrageous to survive any such scrutiny. Why else would the administration be so afraid of a few jokes?

I have read that the Joe Rogan school of comedy, that has grown popular in the past decade, did so on the grounds on fighting liberal "cancel culture". Back then they were rebelling against what was painted as a predominant culture, now that they have overachieved, one wonders if they would also fight cancle culture when it is coming from thr political right. I am not very optimistic about that.

But maybe we get new generations of comedians that will.

Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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Post by nullocator »

TowerTall wrote: post #609
jszymborski wrote: post #243

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is unironically what happened here. The comments Kimmel made here did not disparage Kirk, but rather the administration's reaction to his shooting.

“The Maga Gang [is] desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it,” Kimmel said.

What is incorrect about that statement? The shooter grew up in a MAGA/Republican household. There are lots of examples over the last week of the Trump admin and MAGA personalities using Charlie Kirks death for political gain. In fact I would say them using Charlie Kirk's death to cancel Jimmy Kimmel is literally them using his death for political gain.

Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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Post by stavros »

mrandish wrote: post #233

We really need to stop the cancelling of people for saying controversial, disagreeable and even deeply offensive things. I don't agree with what Kimmel said and I wouldn't have said it myself but it also wasn't outside the bounds of opinions which should be able to be expressed. If you're nodding along in agreement, then you should also know my long-term commitment to consistency in tolerating factually wrong, distas…

What did he say, though? In the video he says that the killer is one of "them" (I'm not familiar enough to know who "them" are), and makes fun of Trump for apparently not caring at all.

What was the offensive or disagreeable part? Seems like standard satire to me.

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Post by rezonant »

typpilol wrote: post #588
davesque wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MAGA did, in fact, do their best over the weekend to cast the shooter as anything other than one of them. Comments made in poor taste? Maybe? Not really? No poorer taste than the president saying on Fox & Friends that he "couldn't care less" about promoting unity after the Kirk shooting. Next point, from NYTimes article covering this: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/17/business/media/abc-jimmy-... "The abrupt decisio…

Free speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences.

Free speech doesn't mean freedom from government oppression?

What do you think free speech, the right guaranteed by the Constitution, means?

Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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Post by rezonant »

_9za9 wrote: post #156
Sparkle-san wrote: post #124

> The ABC late-night host’s remarks constituted “the sickest conduct possible,” FCC chair Brendan Carr told right-wing podcaster Benny Johnson on Wednesday. Carr suggested his FCC could move to revoke ABC affiliate licenses as a way to force Disney to punish Kimmel. Regardless of what Kimmel said and if you think it was appropriate or not, we are seeing this administration use this as an opportunity to trample on the…

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Your post deliberately leaves out the statements from the FCC threatening action, which spooked Nexstar who has business with the FCC.

Maybe you weren't aware of this fact despite it being literally the headline shown on the very page you are commenting on:

> ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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Post by Garlef »

suzdude wrote: post #614

Mel Brooks had the right of it. Fascism and Authoritarianism is defeated by satire and mockery. The ideology is too outrageous to survive any such scrutiny. Why else would the administration be so afraid of a few jokes?

There was loads of pre-WW2 mockery of Hitler. It did not matter a lot in the end.

So: As much as I admire Mel Brooks, this is just wishful thinking.

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Post by FranzFerdiNaN »

xyzal wrote: post #608
breatheoften wrote: post #601

Why the heck is this 600+ comment thread not on the front page?

Probably penalized due to political themes being discouraged on HN. Which is IMO a bad decision. You can ignore politics, but politics won't ignore you.

Especially with how tech companies and tech billionaires influence politics.

Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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Post by atoav »

For those who are still indifferent about stuff like this, a short reminder of a historical timeline:

- Month 0 (Jan 1933): Hitler appointed Chancellor

- Month 1 (Feb 1933): Reichstag fire; Reichstag Fire Decree suspends key civil liberties

- Month 2 (Mar 1933): Reichstag elections; Enabling Act passed; Dachau concentration camp opened

- Month 3 (Apr 1933): nationwide boycott of Jewish businesses; Civil Service Law purges Jews and political opponents from state jobs

- Month 4 (May 1933): independent trade unions seized and dissolved; replaced by the German Labour Front (DAF)

- Month 5 (Jun 1933): Social Democratic Party banned nationally

- Month 6 (Jul 1933): Law Against the Formation of New Parties makes Germany a one-party state

- Month 8 (Sep 1933): Reich Chamber of Culture law brings arts and press under Propaganda Ministry control

- Month 9 (Oct 1933): Editors’ Law (Schriftleitergesetz) excludes Jews from journalism and subjects editors to regime oversight

- Month 10 (Nov 1933): one-list Reichstag “election” and referendum held with opposition already illegal

- Month 12 (Jan 1934): Law on the Reconstruction of the Reich abolishes state parliaments and centralizes power

- Months 17–18 (Jun–Jul 1934): Night of the Long Knives purge eliminates SA leadership and other rivals

- Month 19 (Aug 1934): law merging President and Chancellor signed; Hindenburg dies; army swears personal oath to Hitler, Hitler becomes Führer

- Month 32 (Sep 1935): Nuremberg Laws strip Jews of citizenship and outlaw marriages/relations with “Aryans”

Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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Post by karmakurtisaani »

atoav wrote: post #631
suzdude wrote: post #614

Mel Brooks had the right of it. Fascism and Authoritarianism is defeated by satire and mockery. The ideology is too outrageous to survive any such scrutiny. Why else would the administration be so afraid of a few jokes?

I have read that the Joe Rogan school of comedy, that has grown popular in the past decade, did so on the grounds on fighting liberal "cancel culture". Back then they were rebelling against what was painted as a predominant culture, now that they have overachieved, one wonders if they would also fight cancle culture when it is coming from thr political right. I am not very optimistic about that. But maybe we get new…

Their mediocre humor relies on punching down and bashing "cancel culture". That's their only trick and what their audience wants to hear. Without it their "comedy" has no edge, and picking on trans people is a lot less funny when the president is already doing it on national news.

Re: ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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Post by LadyCailin »

davesque wrote: post #119

I believe this is the clip in question? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j3YdxNSzTk As much as I can tell, they're mad because Kimmel pointed out a couple of instances where Trump seemed to care more about his new ballroom at the WH than about the recent murder of Kirk. I've been reluctant to toss around the f-word, but it doesn't feel like an exaggeration to call this fascism. Kimmel said nothing that should have wa…

And if you’re against fascism, you’re a terrorist now too.
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