Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

Post by tayo42 » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 6:33 AM UTC

DiogenesKynikos wrote: post #611

dlubarov wrote: post #135

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Why would we expect any desirable outcome in this hypothetical though? So the US flips, Israel is pressured into withdrawing, Hamas regains control of the strip and resumes rocket attacks, Israel is forced to respond eventually. It doesn't seem like a path toward a real solution.

As long as Israel controls the lives of millions of Palestinians who have no rights and who are treated like trash, there will be conflict. In order to be effective, US pressure would have to be aimed at forcing Israel to do one of two things: 1. Withdraw its military from the Palestinian territories (East Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza), dismantle all of its illegal settlements there, and recognize a fully sovere…

Post by maxlin » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 6:37 AM UTC

Post by zaphirplane » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 6:40 AM UTC

dlubarov wrote: post #135

beloch wrote: post #87

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Flipping the U.S. really is the key to ending this conflict. The U.S. reliably uses its security council veto to nix any meaningful UN response and the U.S. remains, by far, the biggest supplier of arms to the IDF. If the US were to stop veto'ing everything and cut off the IDF's supply of, at least, some types of weapons, the new ground assault would likely end quickly. Unfortunately, that isn't likely to happen. Net…

Why would we expect any desirable outcome in this hypothetical though? So the US flips, Israel is pressured into withdrawing, Hamas regains control of the strip and resumes rocket attacks, Israel is forced to respond eventually. It doesn't seem like a path toward a real solution.

Post by buyucu » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 6:46 AM UTC

dotancohen wrote: post #403

buyucu wrote: post #282

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unwatch is funded by religious lunatics in Israel. Nobody takes it seriously.

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Post by fahhem » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 6:56 AM UTC

xyzelement wrote: post #465

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You can be kept on the brink of starvation just like you can keep a cup hanging over the edge of a table. It's a manufactured famine, therefore it can be created with precision. Unlike the potato famine in Ireland, it's controlled and they literally count calories going in (before cutting it to 0).

So according to that logic, Israel is intentionally orchestrating a "brink of starvation" which generates for it negative publicity but is very careful to ensure nobody actually starves. Why would be the strategy in that according to you?