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Re: Betty Crocker broke recipes by shrinking boxes

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Post by malfist »

ricardobeat wrote: post #482
malfist wrote: post #279

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Leaky gut is a myth. It's used to scare people and sell things. If you don't believe me, feel free to read it's Wikipedia page.

"Leaky gut" might be a myth, but emulsifiers' impact on gut health is not. A steady stream of studies [1] and publications on this [2] has been coming out, since the role of our microbiome became more clear. [1] ex https://www.nature.com/articles/s42003-024-06224-3 [2] https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/jun/29/the-tru...

Lots of things are emulsifiers, are you saying eggs and butter are bad for the gut?

Re: Betty Crocker broke recipes by shrinking boxes

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Post by fragmede »

fluoridation wrote: post #622
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You see this complaint a lot with chip bags, which are mostly air. But chip bags are always mostly air, and can't change, because the air is needed to provide padding that prevents the chips from being ground into dust before you open the bag. This tends to discredit the genre of "the packaging is there to fool the customer" complaints. If you can't identify when the packaging is critical to the product, why listen t…

I think that's a known quantity. Only a child would think a bag of chips is completely filled with chips. In fact, I remember first hearing about this in some science show or something; it hadn't occurred to me before then that the bags were mostly empty, it was just the way chips were packaged. >If you can't identify when the packaging is critical to the product, why listen to any complaints? But you can identity it…

Complain about feeling ripped off? Absolutely. I don't buy chips much, but skin care products are the worst offenders, with both the box and the container inside having extra space to make it look like more product than it has. I don't make complaining about this my whole identity, but I have complained about items with excessive amount of air in the container whenever I've received one.

Re: Betty Crocker broke recipes by shrinking boxes

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Post by davidinosauro »

saalweachter wrote: post #465
indrora wrote: post #300

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Even regional differences in things. If you say "one bar of butter", "one stick of butter", and "one pat of butter", these can all refer to three different things or the same thing, depending on where you are located. East Coast and West Coast US butter are sold in different size blocks (though both are "8 tbsp") however sometimes you'll find 4tbsp sticks on the west coast that look like 1/2 an East Coast stick that…

One recipe in my family calls for butter "the size of two walnuts".

In Italy this is a fairly common expression.

I've typically (only?) seen it on savory recipes though. For cakes and cookies you'd have quantities in grams.

Re: Betty Crocker broke recipes by shrinking boxes

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Post by fluoridation »

fragmede wrote: post #632
fluoridation wrote: post #622

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I think that's a known quantity. Only a child would think a bag of chips is completely filled with chips. In fact, I remember first hearing about this in some science show or something; it hadn't occurred to me before then that the bags were mostly empty, it was just the way chips were packaged. >If you can't identify when the packaging is critical to the product, why listen to any complaints? But you can identity it…

Complain about feeling ripped off? Absolutely. I don't buy chips much, but skin care products are the worst offenders, with both the box and the container inside having extra space to make it look like more product than it has. I don't make complaining about this my whole identity, but I have complained about items with excessive amount of air in the container whenever I've received one.

I was asking specifically about chips and the like. I've seen that shit you mention in creams and pastes and other stuff like that and yeah, that's definitely deceitful and nobody likes that. That said, for me it's not about getting ripped off, but about making it difficult to tell when I'm about to run out, especially if it's some specialty product that I have to go out of my way to get.

Re: Betty Crocker broke recipes by shrinking boxes

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Post by FearNotDaniel »

closewith wrote: post #390
FearNotDaniel wrote: post #289

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Yes, except for this part: > The failure of the potato crops created starvation and emigration so profound in scale This bears repeating a thousand times over because the political-economic lessons have still not been learned: the famine in Ireland was not caused by potato blight. The island of Ireland at the time was growing more than enough crops to feed its people. The famine was caused by the British Government o…

Yes, it was a straight genocide, of the kind so common in territories that were subject to crown control.

I disagree strongly that this abhorrent and preventable tragedy should be categorised as genocide. The rich, protestant English looked down on the catholic Irish peasants as an inferior race, they blamed the Irish for their own suffering, supposedly due to fecklessness, stupidity, laziness etc, and they were happy to sit back and allow the poor farmers to starve. But that’s not the same thing at all as actively wishing for the outright destruction of a whole people. The system relied on having peasant workers to work the farms of the landholders - it was not in the British interest, either economically or ideologically, to eliminate them completely in the same way that Nazi Germany wished for the Jewish people.

It’s true that the British perpetrated many other awful atrocities in their pursuit of Empire - as did all the other Empire-building nations at the time - but I’d like to see you come up with a list of the ones you can convincingly describe as genocide.

Re: Betty Crocker broke recipes by shrinking boxes

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Post by closewith »

FearNotDaniel wrote: post #635
closewith wrote: post #390

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Yes, it was a straight genocide, of the kind so common in territories that were subject to crown control.

I disagree strongly that this abhorrent and preventable tragedy should be categorised as genocide. The rich, protestant English looked down on the catholic Irish peasants as an inferior race, they blamed the Irish for their own suffering, supposedly due to fecklessness, stupidity, laziness etc, and they were happy to sit back and allow the poor farmers to starve. But that’s not the same thing at all as actively wishi…

The Irish Famine was genocide. The potato blight destroyed one crop, but the British state chose to export grain and livestock under armed guard while over a million starved. That is deliberate destruction of a people, not an accident.

This pattern runs deep: Cromwell’s massacres and forced transplantation, the plantation system, the suppression of Irish language and culture, and the burning-out of Catholic families in Belfast are all part of the same logic of demographic control. Each episode targeted the Irish as an ethnic and cultural group for elimination in part, which is exactly what the Genocide Convention defines. Across centuries, British policy toward Ireland was consistently genocidal.

Re: Betty Crocker broke recipes by shrinking boxes

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Post by nerdsniper »

indrora wrote: post #300
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I’ve also digitized some recipes and had to deal with “1 can” or “1 bar” without size included. Some things aren’t sold like that anymore or their size has fluctuated. In the example about it was for a candy bar pound cake and “1 can of Hershey’s syrup” isn’t a thing anymore that I can tell and even if it was, I had no clue the size. Same with “1 Hershey’s bar”, uhh, no clue what 1 standard bar was then. Thankfully m…

Even regional differences in things. If you say "one bar of butter", "one stick of butter", and "one pat of butter", these can all refer to three different things or the same thing, depending on where you are located. East Coast and West Coast US butter are sold in different size blocks (though both are "8 tbsp") however sometimes you'll find 4tbsp sticks on the west coast that look like 1/2 an East Coast stick that…

Also the tbsp and fluid ounce differ by 4% in the UK vs USA. This offsets the nominal 25% difference in pints, with UK pints having 20 oz and US pints having 16, closing the gap a bit to an actual 20.095% between the pints.

Re: Betty Crocker broke recipes by shrinking boxes

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Post by nerdsniper »

0xffff2 wrote: post #594
indrora wrote: post #300

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Even regional differences in things. If you say "one bar of butter", "one stick of butter", and "one pat of butter", these can all refer to three different things or the same thing, depending on where you are located. East Coast and West Coast US butter are sold in different size blocks (though both are "8 tbsp") however sometimes you'll find 4tbsp sticks on the west coast that look like 1/2 an East Coast stick that…

> If you say "one bar of butter", "one stick of butter", and "one pat of butter", these can all refer to three different things or the same thing, depending on where you are located. East Coast and West Coast US butter are sold in different size blocks (though both are "8 tbsp") however sometimes you'll find 4tbsp sticks on the west coast that look like 1/2 an East Coast stick that I've heard called pats. Wat. Never…

Midwest, East Coast, and South I've seen some 1/2lb or 1lb blocks for fancier butters sometimes. But a pat of butter was definitely 1/4-1/2 tbsp of butter in the midwest - depending on if for toast (less) or for baking (exactly 1/2).

I've not heard "pat" used as a serious unit of volume since childhood though. In fact I rarely hear the word pat in relation to butter at all anymore.

Re: Betty Crocker broke recipes by shrinking boxes

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Post by Theodores »

giardini wrote: post #603
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> Cheese is worst thing ever for saturated fat, which clogs the arteries, gives you diabetes and sends you to hospital for some bypass surgery. Besides, what is natural about consuming dairy? The bull gets jerked off, the cow gets artificially inseminated, the baby gets eaten and the milk for the baby gets stolen. That is just plain weird. Technically everything is natural if you want to see it that way. At least no…

komali2 says > Cheese is worst thing ever for saturated fat, which clogs the arteries... News alert: the cholesterol hypothesis is dead, but many people, like parent poster here, cannot let go: https://www.sott.net/article/441076-The-cholesterol-hypothes...

Dude, that's a conspiracy theory website that is all about UFOs and not getting vaccinated. You are wasting everyone's time by posting this link.

Most of the world's agriculture concerns growing commodity crops to feed animals - 'big beef'. This is big business and the source of all hatchet jobs on Ancel Keys. Their message is simple, you don't need fruit and vegetables, you need steak and butter!

Find me one centenarian that got there by eating a diet heavy in saturated fats. Just one!!!

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