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Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by account42 »

exasperaited wrote: post #594
overfeed wrote: post #298

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> The bots will eventually be indistinguishable from humans Not until they get issued government IDs they won't! Extrapolating from current trends, some form of online ID attestation (likely based on government-issued ID[1]) will become normal in the next decade, and naturally, this will be included in the anti-bot arsenal. It will be up to the site operator to trust identities signed by the Russian government. 1. De…

At this future point, AI firms will simply rent people’s identities to use online.

They are already getting people hooked on "free" access so they will have plenty of subjects willing to do that to keep that access.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by mschuster91 »

account42 wrote: post #573
inejge wrote: post #520

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> Once you start blocking actual users out of your sites, it simply has gone too far. It has, scrapers are out of control. Anubis and its ilk are a desperate measure, and some fallout is expected. And you don't get to dictate how a non-commercial site tries to avoid throttling and/or bandwidth overage bills.

No, they are a lazy measure. Most websites that slap on these kinds of checks don't even bother with more human-friendly measures first.

Because I don't have the fucking time to deal with AI scraper bots. I went harder - anything even looking suspiciously close to a scraper that's not on Google's index [1] or has wget in its user agent gets their entire /24 hard banned for a month, with an email address to contact for unbanning.

That seems to be a pretty effective way for now to keep scrapers, spammers and other abusive behavior away. Normal users don't do certain site actions at the speed that scraper bots do, there's no other practically relevant search engine than Google, I've never ever seen an abusive bot hide as wget (they all try to emulate looking like a human operated web browser), and no AI agent yet is smart enough to figure out how to interpret the message "Your ISP's network appears to have been used by bot activity. Please write an email to xxx@yyy.zzz with as the subject line (or click on this pre-filled link) and you will automatically get unblocked".

[1] https://developers.google.com/search/docs/crawling-indexing/...

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by balamatom »

hdndiebf wrote: post #483
rootsudo wrote: post #59

When I instantly read it, I knew it was anubis. I hope the anime catgirls never disapear from that project :)

This anime thing is the one thing about computer culture that I just don't seem to get. I did not get it as child, when suddenly half of children cartoons became animes and I just disliked the aestheic. I didn't get it in school, when people started reading mangas . I'll probably never get it. Therefore I sincerely hope, they do go away from anubis, so I can further dwell in my ignorance.

Might've caught on because the animes had plots, instead of considering viewers to have the attention spans of idiots like Western kids' shows (and, in the 21st century, software) tend to do.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by dijit »

robertlagrant wrote: post #625
zorked wrote: post #530

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CloudFlare is dystopic. It centralizes even the part of the Internet that hadn't been centralized before. It is a perfect Trojan horse to bypass all encryption. And it chooses who accesses (a considerable chunk of) the Internet and who doesn't. Anubis looks much better than this.

> It is a perfect Trojan horse to bypass all encryption Isn't any hosting provider also this?

Not necessarily.

FaaS: Yes.

IaaS: Only if you do TLS termination at their gateway, otherwise not really, they'd need to get into your operating system to get the keys which might not always be easy. They could theoretically MITM the KVM terminal when you put in your disk decryption keys but that seems unlikely.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by account42 »

mschuster91 wrote: post #632
account42 wrote: post #573

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No, they are a lazy measure. Most websites that slap on these kinds of checks don't even bother with more human-friendly measures first.

Because I don't have the fucking time to deal with AI scraper bots. I went harder - anything even looking suspiciously close to a scraper that's not on Google's index [1] or has wget in its user agent gets their entire /24 hard banned for a month, with an email address to contact for unbanning. That seems to be a pretty effective way for now to keep scrapers, spammers and other abusive behavior away. Normal users don…

> Normal users don't do certain site actions at the speed that scraper bots do

How would you know when you have already banned them.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by balamatom »

guappa wrote: post #548
rootsudo wrote: post #59

When I instantly read it, I knew it was anubis. I hope the anime catgirls never disapear from that project :)

We all know it's doomed

That's called a self-fulfilling prophecy and is not in fact mandatory to participate in.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by [deleted] »

qwery wrote: post #601
esperent wrote: post #571

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I like to talk seriously about art, representation, and culture. What's wrong with that? It's at least as interesting as discussing databases or web frameworks. In case you feel it needs linking to the purpose of this forum, the art in question here is being forcefully shown to people in a situation that makes them do a massive context switch. I want to look at the linux or ffmpeg source code but my browser failed a…

What does all of this have to do with (depictions of, references to, etc.) Anubis though? You responded to a comment about the mascot surely being a "jackalgirl" as opposed to a "catgirl" because of the Anubis name and other references. It seemed like you had an issue with the artwork, that it wasn't Anubisy enough, or something. Why would the drawing being more like the statues improve the situation? Now you seem to…

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Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by petralithic »

robertlagrant wrote: post #627
analbliss wrote: post #561

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So yes, it is like having a stalker politely open the door for you as you walk into a shop, because they know very well who you are.

In a world full of robots that look like humans, the stalker who knows you and lets you in might be the only solution.

That stalker might itself be a bot though, so there's no solution.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by petralithic »

technion wrote: post #362
johnklos wrote: post #244

This is a usually technical crowd, so I can't help but wonder if many people genuinely don't get it, or if they are just feigning a lack of understanding to be dismissive of Anubis. Sure, the people who make the AI scraper bots are going to figure out how to actually do the work. The point is that they hadn't, and this worked for quite a while. As the botmakers circumvent, new methods of proof-of-notbot will be made…

It really should be recognised just how many people are watching Cloudflare interstitials on nearly every site these days (and I totally get why this happens) yet making a huge amount of noise about Anubis on a very small amount of sites.

We can make noise about both things, and how they're ruining the internet.
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