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GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by JustExAWS »

leptons wrote: post #623
JustExAWS wrote: post #564

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That’s why there are so many great PWAs for Android and most companies avoid writing Android apps and just tell Android users to use the web apps. Oh wait, that’s totally not the case.

My web app works great on Android, but will never work on iOS because they refuse to implement APIs I need, and they won't let anyone else implement a browser with the APIs either. I refuse to pay Apple and buy their hardware to be able to develop a native app for their walled-garden platform, where they can then further extort me for any money my users spend through the app I create. And the DOJ agrees with me, whic…

Your web app is statistically irrelevant. If PWAs were so much better on Android, then why do companies still make Android apps and web apps?

Well, one reason is that most Android phones being sold are so underpowered that you have to make a native app to get decent performance. Facebook for one found out early on that it couldn’t get away with just having an app that was a web wrapper because of low end Android devices.

So where are all of the great groundbreaking popular web apps?

And saying the current US government is in agreement with you about anything isn’t the positive thing you seem to be implying it is…

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by blibble »

jedberg wrote: post #443
meindnoch wrote: post #404

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Microsoft being the cool guys? The cool guys ? Mwuhahahhaa. This gave me the good belly laugh I needed. For the last 25 years, Microsoft was known for: - being the no. 1 enemy of free software - shipping the worst web browser in existence, despite 80%+ market share - making corrupt deals with governments around the world to tie them to their office software suite - creating vendor-locked proprietary extensions to kil…

> making cringe hardware that basically noone purchased Their keyboards were arguably the best ones around. I'm literally typing this on a 20 year old MS keyboard right now.

they were better than the $20 crap you could buy in staples

but definitely not the best ones around

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by spookie »

powgpu wrote: post #418
worik wrote: post #386

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No. Linux is better. That worm has turned, at least five years ago

for X_86 family for sure, but the experience on other chip set such as Apple Silicon (maybe the arms) for desktop usage are quite rough around the edges.

Never had issues with other ARM chips other than the Apple co-designed ones.

Oh, and if you have problems running Linux on Macs... That isn't Linux's fault.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by themafia »

gmueckl wrote: post #435
meindnoch wrote: post #404

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Microsoft being the cool guys? The cool guys ? Mwuhahahhaa. This gave me the good belly laugh I needed. For the last 25 years, Microsoft was known for: - being the no. 1 enemy of free software - shipping the worst web browser in existence, despite 80%+ market share - making corrupt deals with governments around the world to tie them to their office software suite - creating vendor-locked proprietary extensions to kil…

This comment comes some 15 years late. Microsoft runs the biggest org on github and has open sourced a lot of their own code under permissive licenses. IE has been dead and buried for ages. Edge doesn't have even close to the same market share and is based on Chromium. They build more and more of their own UIs on Electron. I honestly don't remember when they tried to snare someone to use proprietary extensions to som…

> a lot of their own code under permissive licenses.

Simply releasing corporate projects under a permissive license is not what many people understand to be the fundament of "open source."

> to snare someone to use proprietary extensions to something open

What do you think their entire operating system is?

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by debugnik »

deaddodo wrote: post #509
dylan604 wrote: post #483

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> - making cringe hardware that basically noone purchased (Zune, Windows Phone) The Surface looks cool to me, but since it runs Windows, I will never use it. Does it only look cool, or is actually a cool device?

Linux runs perfectly fine on most of the Surfaces: https://github.com/linux-surface/linux-surface/wiki/Supporte... There's the usual asterisk here or there, as with most laptops; but, outside of some golden devices, it's about on par with most.

> Linux runs perfectly fine on most of the Surfaces [...] There's the usual asterisk here or there,

Are we reading the same tables? The last several models are full of question marks and crosses in the support matrix, and many models old and new seemingly require the linux-surface kernel fork for key features like touchscreens and even some touchpads, you can't just install your distro of choice.

Even compared to my disappointing experience running Linux at home, I'd say that's more of an asterisk minefield, except for a few Surface Laptop models.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by zemo »

bitbasher wrote: post #466

GitHub has been a growing disappointment for quite a while. 1. GitHub itself isn't opensource despite being the opensource forge. 2. Microsoft (of all companies) acquired it. 3. Microsoft pushes VSCode and kills GitHub's Atom. 4. GitHub employees are quite political (master branch rename, ICE protest resignations, etc). 5. GitHub striking down repositories and user accounts (the Russian developer, yt-dlp, etc). 6. LL…

> GitHub employees are quite political (master branch rename, ICE protest resignations, etc).

ah ok so the politics of power aren't of interest to you

> LLMs trained on public and private code without consent or opting in.

ah ok so the politics of power ARE of interest to you

what's goin on here man

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by pge »

gmueckl wrote: post #435
meindnoch wrote: post #404

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft being the cool guys? The cool guys ? Mwuhahahhaa. This gave me the good belly laugh I needed. For the last 25 years, Microsoft was known for: - being the no. 1 enemy of free software - shipping the worst web browser in existence, despite 80%+ market share - making corrupt deals with governments around the world to tie them to their office software suite - creating vendor-locked proprietary extensions to kil…

This comment comes some 15 years late. Microsoft runs the biggest org on github and has open sourced a lot of their own code under permissive licenses. IE has been dead and buried for ages. Edge doesn't have even close to the same market share and is based on Chromium. They build more and more of their own UIs on Electron. I honestly don't remember when they tried to snare someone to use proprietary extensions to som…

I would add to your list that MSFT also makes decent hardware now - surface laptops and xbox have both done well

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by ants_everywhere »

pjerem wrote: post #533
xnyan wrote: post #508

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Don’t Apple and Ubuntu also advertise products in their OS also?

Apple barely does it and only for their products. I agree with you that that’s already too much and too annoying but that’s an order of magnitude less than Microsoft who advertise their products pretty aggressively AND ALSO are advertising for whoever gave them money too. Ubuntu I didn’t use it for years, there are tons of other distributions that I prefer now but last time I checked, there was a removable default sh…

Apple pushes their products often on iOS and many of them can't ve turned off or can't be turned off easily.

So you have notifications that you can only get rid of by engaging with the Apple ads.

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