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Post by joncrane »

WHA8m wrote: post #516
omcnoe wrote: post #366

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Registering a company in Germany: you must visit a notary in person with your incorporation documents, and sit there while the notary reads aloud your incorporation to you. This is to "ensure that you fully understand the contract" even as a foreigner who doesn't speak corporate-legalese-German. Minimum capital deposit of €25,000. Registering a company in US (Delaware) can be achieved in as little as 1 hour. Getting…

> It's also a form of light racism that targets foreigners/migrants by imposing more difficult bureaucratic requirements and costs on them compared to by birth citizens. How is having a different process for foreigners racist? Criticize it if you will, but calling it racist is crazy. Even "light racist" - whatever that means. Bureaucracy in Germany is notoriously slow for all people. Foreigners going through a differ…

I may be extrapolating here, but the part in the comment you're replying to that says

>so if the government bureaucrats are too slow

I wonder if there are certain types of names that make the bureaucrats work more slowly.

Re: US AI Action Plan

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Post by aprilthird2021 »

Karawebnetwork wrote: post #493
timoth3y wrote: post #68

> Update Federal procurement guidelines to ensure that the government only contracts with frontier large language model (LLM) developers who ensure that their systems are objective and free from top-down ideological bias If foundation model companies want their government contracts renewed, they are going to have to make sure their AI output aligns with this administration's version of "truth".

See: > In the AI context, DEI includes the suppression or distortion of factual information about race or sex; manipulation of racial or sexual representation in model outputs; incorporation of concepts like critical race theory, transgenderism, unconscious bias, intersectionality, and systemic racism; and discrimination on the basis of race or sex. DEI displaces the commitment to truth in favor of preferred outcomes…

> incorporation of concepts like critical race theory, transgenderism, unconscious bias, intersectionality, and systemic racism

So... the concept of unconscious bias is verboten to the new regime? Isn't it just a pretty simple truth? We all have unconscious biases because we all work with incomplete information. Isn't this just a normal idea?

Re: US AI Action Plan

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Post by alganet »

vharuck wrote: post #459
alganet wrote: post #442

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It doesn't say anything about open training corpus of data. The USA supposedly have the most data in the world. Companies cannot (in theory) train on integrated sets of information. USA and China to some extent, can train on large amounts of information that is not public. USA in particular has been known for keeping a vast repository of metadata (data about data) about all sorts of things. This data is very refined…

So DOGE might not be consolidating and linking data just for ICE, but for providing to companies as a training corpus? In normal times, I'd laugh that off as a paranoiac fever dream.

Companies can change hands easier than governments. I would assume the US isn't sharing anything exclusive with private commercial entities. Doing so would be a mistake in my opinion.

Re: US AI Action Plan

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Post by alganet »

dudeinjapan wrote: post #467
vharuck wrote: post #459

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So DOGE might not be consolidating and linking data just for ICE, but for providing to companies as a training corpus? In normal times, I'd laugh that off as a paranoiac fever dream.

If AI were trained on troves of personal info like SSNs, emails, phones then the leakage would be easily discovered and the model would be worthless for any commercial/mass-consumption purpose. (This doesnt rule out a PRISM-AI for NSA purposes of course.)

The way you describe it make PRISM sound like a contact book. I think it more like unwilling facebook.

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Post by Kbelicius »

Jensson wrote: post #498
Kbelicius wrote: post #407

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> We can program an AI to be exactly like that, just being happy from helping others. It seems that you missed the first sentence that GP wrote from which the one you quoted follows.

How is "being happy from helping others" not having emotions? To me happiness is an emotion, and deriving it from helping others is a perfectly normal reason to be happy even for humans. Not all humans are perfectly selfish, so it should be possible to make an AI that isn't selfish either.

> How is "being happy from helping others" not having emotions?

Nobody said that. What I was pointing out to you is that GP said that not having emotions is worse than having them since intelligent actors need some form of compensation to do any work. Thus having no emotions, according to GP, it would be impossible to motivate that actor to do anything. Your response is to just give it emotions and thus is irrelevant to the discussion here.

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Post by tomhow »

childintime wrote: post #36
childintime wrote: post #35

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I don't know what any of this means but could you please not post like this on HN? I'm referring both to the inflammatory/conspiratorial content and the pattern of using Grawlix symbols in the names of political leaders. If you feel the need to do that in names, you'd be best to avoid using them or posting comments that contain them.

Re: US AI Action Plan

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Post by WHA8m »

joncrane wrote: post #631
WHA8m wrote: post #516

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's also a form of light racism that targets foreigners/migrants by imposing more difficult bureaucratic requirements and costs on them compared to by birth citizens. How is having a different process for foreigners racist? Criticize it if you will, but calling it racist is crazy. Even "light racist" - whatever that means. Bureaucracy in Germany is notoriously slow for all people. Foreigners going through a differ…

I may be extrapolating here, but the part in the comment you're replying to that says >so if the government bureaucrats are too slow I wonder if there are certain types of names that make the bureaucrats work more slowly.

Is there ANY substance behind such a hypothetical question? If not, I don't want to hear about it. It's a sensitive topic and you're doing no one a favor.

Re: US AI Action Plan

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Post by Kon5ole »

dingnuts wrote: post #555
atoav wrote: post #534

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A certain group of people keep saying that. But that particular idea of "clean" nuclear does not price in the 10.000 years of safe storage of nuclear waste materials (for the most dangerous HLW materials this number can go up to 100.000 years). Do you and your 3500 generations of ancestors volunteer to do this? Then it is cheap and clean. Otherwise it is yet another instance of "privatize the gains and socialize the…

My understanding is that every other form of energy production has similar or worse concerns, including renewables due to the materials used to build and operate and decommission solar panels and windmills. The argument you're making about waste has even led to the decommissioning of nuclear in Germany to be replaced with coal... burning coal also produces radioactive fly ash. Everything has tradeoffs! I guess we cou…

>My understanding is that every other form of energy production has similar or worse concerns

You are suffering from a misunderstanding then. Maybe several, since Germany has cut their coal use by more than half since Fukushima. (262 TWh from coal in 2011, 108 in 2024).

Nuclear waste and the efforts it requires to manage is really orders of magnitude worse than other kinds of waste produced in energy production. Even if it can be argued that coal is second, it's a distant second, and nobody replaces nuclear with coal.

Re: US AI Action Plan

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Post by rini17 »

Kon5ole wrote: post #639
dingnuts wrote: post #555

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My understanding is that every other form of energy production has similar or worse concerns, including renewables due to the materials used to build and operate and decommission solar panels and windmills. The argument you're making about waste has even led to the decommissioning of nuclear in Germany to be replaced with coal... burning coal also produces radioactive fly ash. Everything has tradeoffs! I guess we cou…

>My understanding is that every other form of energy production has similar or worse concerns You are suffering from a misunderstanding then. Maybe several, since Germany has cut their coal use by more than half since Fukushima. (262 TWh from coal in 2011, 108 in 2024). Nuclear waste and the efforts it requires to manage is really orders of magnitude worse than other kinds of waste produced in energy production. Even…

That is purely psychological perception. Noone seriously calculated that nuclear waste would be orders of magnitude worse than coal per TWh. Neither safety, expense to manage nor other externalities.
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