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Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by leoh »

leoh wrote: post #524
ZeroCool2u wrote: post #287

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Personally my theory is that Gemini benefits from being able to train on Googles massive internal code base and because Rust has been very low on uptake internally at Google, especially since they have some really nice C++ tooling, Gemini is comparatively bad at Rust.

>Personally my theory is that Gemini benefits from being able to train on Googles massive internal code base and because Rust has been very low on uptake internally at Google, especially since they have some really nice C++ tooling, Gemini is comparatively bad at Rust. Were they to train it on their C++ codebase, it would not be effective on account of the fact that they don't use boost or cmake or any major stuff th…

Excuse me why was this downvoted so aggressively??

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by leoh »

asadm wrote: post #532
leoh wrote: post #526

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+1 I have not found Gemini 2.5 better than Claude's latest models -- different and better at some things, but not better in general; and in general I have found Gemini 2.5 Pro to be worse at dealing with large codebases despite its huge context window. So I too am quite curious about the workflow here.

the core idea is to not use up all of context for files but instead sessions go longer before becoming a useless pursuit ie. more turns possible with larger context window

Are you doing this with an LLM interface directly as opposed to using cursor or another tool like that?

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman »

iandanforth wrote: post #15

I love how fragmented Google's Gemini offerings are. I'm a Pro subscriber, but I now learn I should be a "Gemini Code Assist Standard or Enterprise" user to get additional usage. I didn't even know that existed! As a run of the mill Google user I get a generous usage tier but paying them specifically for "Gemini" doesn't get me anything when it comes to "Gemini CLI". Delightful!

I was having such a good time using Gemini 2.5 Pro I forgot that Google is generally incapable of sustaining a new product. I’ll try not to get used too attached to it.

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by I_am_tiberius »

I wish google would treat its products as completely separate offerings, each with its own login, dedicated site, and user management. I don’t want to be automatically logged into all Google services just because I signed in to one. Their ecosystem is becoming as complex and confusing as Microsoft’s. They should focus on making each product standalone, instead of forcing synergies that only make the user experience worse.

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by ekunazanu »

llm_nerd wrote: post #542
ekunazanu wrote: post #505

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I have nothing against npm, but having a single binary would've been a lot more trivial and convenient. Codex is heading in that direction, and I hope others do too.

I don't see how it can get more trivial and convenient than npm install -g @google/gemini-cli then having a gemini command line app. I mean, I guess if you don't have node installed, but it's so prevalent in so many tools it's a reasonable thing to require. Piping a downloaded shell script to bash seems pretty much the same effort.

It's more like I want my OS package manager to be handling global packages (personal preference), and there is a higher chance of it being included in official OS repositories if it is packaged as a precompiled binary with minimal dependencies.

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by mavhc »

Traubenfuchs wrote: post #577
bilalq wrote: post #364

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The root problem here lies with Apple. It's so frustrating how they take a 30% cut for the privilege of being unable to actually have a relationship with your customers. Want to do a partial refund (or a refund at all)? Want to give one month free to an existing subscriber? Tough luck. Your users are Apple's customers, not yours.

I love Apple subscriptions. No way for you to scam me or make it hard ro cancel. I can view them all in the apple account subscription view. No tricks, no unexpected behaviour.

As Long As You Never Leave Us You Wouldn't Want To Leave Us Would You Why Would You Betray Us?

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by lofijeff »

bloppe wrote: post #629
rvnx wrote: post #615

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Same with Stripe, minus the 30% fee. Even better, if you accidentally let the renewal happen they will instantly refund in one-click.

This is exactly the kind of innovation Apple apologists don't realize they're missing out on in the walled garden. You could still have easy, centralized billing with all-in-one management and one-click cancellation, while paying 30% less for everything. Give the free market a chance.

This IS the free market ya dingus.

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by xuf »

tobyhinloopen wrote: post #611
xuf wrote: post #594

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Got the exact same thing here, using Gemini with an API key.

That's an interesting comment - I realized I have a gemini api key in my env. `GEMINI_API_KEY="" gemini` + login using my Google account solves the problem.

That works for me, however, it automatically switches me to gemini-2.5-flash:

Slow response times detected. Automatically switching from gemini-2.5-pro to gemini-2.5-flash for faster responses for the remainder of this session.

To avoid this you can utilize a Gemini API Key. See: https://goo.gle/gemini-cli-docs-auth#gemini-api-key

You can switch authentication methods by typing /auth

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by skinnymuch »

bloppe wrote: post #629
rvnx wrote: post #615

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Same with Stripe, minus the 30% fee. Even better, if you accidentally let the renewal happen they will instantly refund in one-click.

This is exactly the kind of innovation Apple apologists don't realize they're missing out on in the walled garden. You could still have easy, centralized billing with all-in-one management and one-click cancellation, while paying 30% less for everything. Give the free market a chance.

That is the free market. That is why libertarians love the free market.

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by croon »

vexna wrote: post #353
Fluorescence wrote: post #222

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> The Gemini Pro subscription is included with Google One It's not in Basic, Standard or Premium. It's in a new tier called "Google AI Pro" which I think is worth inclusion in your catalogue of product confusion. Oh wait, there's even more tiers that for some reason can't be paid for annually. Weird... why not? "Google AI Ultra" and some others just called Premium again but now include AI. 9 tiers, 5 called Premium,…

It gets even more confusing! If you're on the "Premium" plans (i.e the the old standard "Google One" plans) and upgrade to >=5TB storage, your "Premium" plan starts including all the features of "Google AI Pro". Tip: If you do annual billing for "Premium (5 TB)", you end up paying $21/month for 5TB of storage and the same AI features of "Google AI pro (2TB)"; which is only $1/month more than doing "Google AI Pro (2 T…

In my region Premium is actually $0.60 cheaper per month, with the additional 3TB storage, and that's before yearly billing. Confusing indeed.
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