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Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state. The other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people.

> the enemies of the state tend to become the people Wait, don't you mean that "the people become the enemies of the state"? Or did I miss some jab at immigrants?

It means that if you use the military to police, the military looks at people and sees enemies.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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> If illegal immigration is such a problem, It isn't remotely the problem or even in the same galaxy as needing this type of response. The cause for the actions is racism. The protests are due to calling out racism and removing due process. Anything else is denial or sophistry, that's the simple truth.

So all counties with strong border policies are racist? That’s preposterous. Australia has some of the strictest border policies (drastically more strict than us). Do you believe they’re just racist policies too?

> So all counties with strong border policies are racist?

I never said that, but that's quite the strawman.

It would have been possible to reform the system, without deporting anyone the wrong color to a damn megaprison in a foreign country, or arresting people right at their court hearings, most who are here legally.

The way things are going, the protests are more than warranted, more than justified. As far as I'm concerned, anyone still defending a clear authoritarian is a traitor.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Exactly The aggressive raids aren't in Florida or Texas, or even California farm county, they're targeting urban areas, and getting the intended headlines.

Not true.. they are doing the raids elsewhere including Texas. Florida cracked down on the state level on businessrs a year ago so not as much of a problem as far as I understand.

However, I'd be willing to bet my life that if one was to go to the Trump golf clubs in WPB, Doral and Jupiter, you'd find that some of the folks, say, watering the course, raking the bunkers, or cutting the lawns definitely do not speak English, do not have work permits, are not getting paid standard legal wages, and most definitely are NOT here legally.

Remember folks, with this administration, hypocrisy is the point.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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It verifies the legal status of the documents submitted. Does little beyond encouraging identity theft of USCs that end up with unexpected tax liabilities.

But the estimated number of "illegal" workers is so much larger than the number of people whose identity is stolen on tax returns each year I'd suggest that the issue isn't so much with the tools already available, so much at people aren't using those tools. Even if we had a perfect e-verify system that magically guaranteed the result was accurate, it probably wouldn't make a difference. Not while it's use is "option…

The fact Republicans in Texas harp on about illegal migration but don't do the most basic thing to reduce illegal labor supporting illegal migration really shows its more about having someone to hate than actually working to solve the problem.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Politics aside, LA just can't seem to catch a break. Floods last year, fires earlier this year and now this. That said, what the current administration is doing is almost like they're following a manual other countries followed on their road to nationalistic decline and all the right people in places of power seem to know this. I wonder if they're ready for it? My observation is that the previous administration had f…

If the Dems of 2020 understood that twitter is largely a fringe group of outspoken individuals, they probably would have won in landslide victories. Even if Biden had chosen a strong leader as VP rather than go with a diversity hire to appease the twitterites, we still could have probably avoided this.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

#636

If illegal immigration is such a problem, why not fine businesses 5x salary for using the labor, for as long as it was used? There are a lot of systems in place to verify working status at this point. It eliminates any incentive to hire this cheaper labor willing to work for lower wages. The people coming will be coming for a variety of reasons but it won't be to take the jobs of the uneducated Americans

LA is actively supporting illegal immigrants. If you want something like this to work, federal agents need to do it.

You are posting on a site, that is part of the problem of anti-government thinking without placing any other government structure in place.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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You (intentionally?) forgot to include the acts of violence that kicked all of this off: the government abducting, arresting, and deporting our neighbors. There were, and are, many other options available to the government that would not have lead to this escalation & violence.

"Lowering ourselves to Trumps level and lower will show them!"

Said no with a clear head ever.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Because this isn't about that. This is about having a perceived enemy that only you can fight. If it wasn't immigrants (legal or illegal), it would be a different group, within or outside of your borders. It's fascism 101.

Perceived enemy? Even the most liberal of cities touting themselves as “sanctuary cities” had to pivot and declare they simply cannot handle the influx. 12million immigrants came into the country during the Biden administration. This type of load on the system does not go unnoticed. NYC for example was drastically transformed. Why do you think it’s just a “perceived” problem?

We had no problem in NY handling the influx. In fact we handled it so well that it angered the Republicans even more because they still gave immigration money to Texas AND had to give more money to the sanctuary cities. A problem they created and reaped the effects.

There were not 12 million immigrants entering during the Biden administration. Please provide balanced proof.

The only people in NY that claimed we couldn’t handle it were the Mayor who was trying to get out of his blatant corruption by appealing to Trump.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Let's not blame the victims here. LA had it's problems but it wasn't a warzone until militarized police showed up. All it takes for a protest to become a riot is one cop firing into the crowd, and that could be caused because of a trigger happy cop, or a single person throwing a rock at the police line.

Oh yeah, it's totally the police that forced the poor democrats to burn cars, to throw bricks, to break in and loot stores. What a believable narrative.

what makes you think those people are democrats? A riot is the language of the unheard

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Just watched a vid of LAPD trampling a person with a horse, then shooting them with what looked like a baton round at a range of 5-10 feet. That is a life altering injury, administered with direct intent, while the protestor was trying to flee. Holding my breath for zero consequences for unnecessary force. Not to mention qualified immunity. LAPD doing LAPD things. How can one argue that the police serve the people? T…

How can the incident (with video evidence) you describe not potentially result in criminal charges? Why hold your breath? Surely there are countless people to act on that.

We know from the BLM protests that police are rarely prosecuted for misconduct unless there's massive public outrage, i.e. you need another riot to get the injuries from the first one prosecuted.

Goes all the way back to Rodney King.

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