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The Who Cares Era

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Re: The Who Cares Era

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Why did 20 million people over the last 4 years sneak into America? How many Americans left for Yugoslavia?

How many Yugoslavs left for America?

Google says: "Between 1950 and 1989, approximately 73,000 people immigrated to the United States from Yugoslavia"

I couldn't find any statistics of Americans leaving for Yugoslavia.

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> doing the bare minimum in an almost maliciously compliant way doesn't yield great results this happens when the person paying the money and the person judging the work quality, and the person "punishing" are different entities. Classic example is gov't work - taxpayers pay money, and has no say. Politicians spend, department beaurocracy spends, and hires, etc. The workers get hired, get paid, but their performance…

> Classic example is gov't work - taxpayers pay money, and has no say. I would claim this is not a good example at all. A lot of the specific requirements of public jobs, all the documentation and endless rules, comes from the public reacting very negatively to any reports of waste, perceived misspending., etc. So now everybody is covering their asses by being overly bureaucratic, doing exactly what's written, follow…

> the person judging the work quality, and the person "punishing" are different entities.

>> all the documentation and endless rules, comes from the public reacting very negatively to any reports of waste, perceived misspending

this is exactly what i mean by having different entities judging the quality of the work, and the one doing the punishing.

If it was the same person, bad quality work gets judged, then immediately punished. The reason why rules/documentation/red-tape exists _is_ because the judging and punishing is delegated away.

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Nah, but for real - why wouldn't they take PTO?

Because they already used up their PTO?

Every place I have worked has had meticulously tracked PTO days that most people delayed taking until the end of the year; there were notably fewer people in the office in December.

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post #594

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The problem isn't just laziness or corporate greed, though those play a role. It's the result of a financial system that has spent years prioritizing short-term profits over lasting value. When success is measured by clicks, quarterly earnings, and engagement metrics rather than quality or truth, the natural outcome is a flood of cheap, disposable content. The AI-generated newspaper supplement isn't an exception, it'…

In a nutshell, money is the root of our evil. I bet there are some 19th century books about this.

It’s easy to blame money, for it’s the most visible and measurable metric in a technologically driven culture. But other scholars have pointed to technology itself as being the issue, the relentless chase of data-driven efficiency, not money, which is just a secondary effect downstream. We went from being a tool-making species, to using tools to organize every aspect of our lives. I recommend Neil Postman’s Technopoly and, of course, good old Uncle Ted.

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post #594

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The problem isn't just laziness or corporate greed, though those play a role. It's the result of a financial system that has spent years prioritizing short-term profits over lasting value. When success is measured by clicks, quarterly earnings, and engagement metrics rather than quality or truth, the natural outcome is a flood of cheap, disposable content. The AI-generated newspaper supplement isn't an exception, it'…

In a nutshell, money is the root of our evil. I bet there are some 19th century books about this.

On the other hand, not paying with money for quality content is breeding the even worse cancer of shallow ad-driven content. Where the only thing that matters now is enough of an illusion to generate a click, horizontally scaled with AI-slop to trawl coverage of every possible search term.

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So, I'm living in a Buddhist Monastery. This article basically details why. In Buddhism, we talk sometimes talk about how apathy is the "near enemy" of equanimity. That is, equanimity is good and apathy is bad, but sometimes apathy looks like equanimity. I was a software engineer for several years, and what was hardest for me was this exact "who cares" attitude. I wanted to do good work, but that was not the culture.…

Honest question: why visit HN from a monastery?

We’re so cooked that even Buddhist monks need their daily doomscrolling session.

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Yeah even if you had one of those fancy job and make over 150k, owning a decent flat in London is still out of reach nowadays.

Sadly this is true. 150k a year is "only" about 80-85k net, good luck buying a tiny Victorian row house for >1mln quid without your parents sponsoring the down payment. Or you can buy a crappy apartment built to "UK Standards" where everything is done by people who truly don't give even a shred of effort to quality and you are in the hilarious position that you don't even own your own walls. And that is all on a very…

When the vast majority of people stop caring about working in London then wouldn’t the prices drop noticeably?

It seems to be contradictory, the very fact of the price wage disparity suggest many many people care to an extremely high degree of working within that literal specific geographic area.

Which demonstrates they care very very much about their economic interests at least.

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post #586

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Most workers have learned that going above and beyond almost always backfires. Employers don't value long-term employment relationships, so working hard just results in you raising the bar for yourself, with no benefit. A lot of these people were once starry-eyed highschoolers and college students who got burned too many times. They put in the time, the effort, the blood, sweat and tears, and what did they get? No th…

Dang, feeling this right now. Went above and beyond again and again, for years, barely got a thank you - let alone a raise of any sort. Now I’m completely burnt out and don’t have the energy to even consider my own ideas for my own next move.

Then why are you still there?

People who’ve succeeded in tricking you… likely will do so again in the future.

And maybe with even less scruples.

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Can we finally stop this "kids these days... " "back in my day..." attitude around this? Literally non of this is anything new. Before AI slop, TV's were full of soap opera nonsense that my mom would watch while doing laundry or cooking. Stephen Leacock was making fun of throwaway detective novels hundred years ago. The lesson here is not that "nobody cares." It's that nobody cares about slop, and that's why it's slop. It's now cheaper than ever to produce, so we have more of it but I doubt it occupies more space in our life than occupied before.
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