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Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by r00fus »

mattgreenrocks wrote: post #233
deergomoo wrote: post #176

At this point there’s only really one thing I want from an iPhone and that’s an option for a 12/13 mini sized device again. Surely those phones didn’t sell so few that it’s not worth doing at all?

The best part about my 12 mini is that it's such a pain to use sometimes on the modern web that it discourages unnecessary browsing. Alas, the battery was already subpar on it and now is quite bad, so I'll probably pick up this SE.

I'd just spend the $80 or so to have Apple change the battery. It's still a good phone.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by spaceguillotine »

dima55 wrote: post #531
ndiddy wrote: post #451

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Of course your phone has a short runtime, it both has a small battery and it's 3 years old so the battery's worn out. One of the main reasons why small phones remain a niche is that improvements in battery technology have been far outpaced by improvements in SoCs, so the easiest way to improve a device's battery life vs. the older model is to make it larger so it can fit a bigger battery. Even when it was new, the re…

If only one could open the back and replace the battery, the thing that has been known to everybody to wear out while the rest of the device is perfectly functional. One could only dream of such advanced technology. Maybe in 10 years.

capitalism breeds innovation!

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by stephen_g »

throwaway63467 wrote: post #546
insane_dreamer wrote: post #404

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Apple managed to design its own state-of-the-art CPUs. I wouldn't have imagined that designing its own modem would be such a difficult challenge?

Their CPU is based on ARM IP, it’s not like they designed it from the ground up. The modem they might have had to? Also I guess a big challenge are all the patents you need to be aware of and find ways to license or circumvent, not sure if that’s worse for modems but it seems all wireless / cellular technology is riddled with patents (not saying CPUs aren’t but again ARM is probably taking care of some of that for Ap…

No, that's not how the Apple Silicon works - it was at the very start, but the processor cores haven't been based on Arm IP since the A6, since then the Arm designed cores were replaced with fully custom cores that are just compatible with the Arm instruction set.

Same with the GPU except that was later on - it was a licensed PowerVR IP until Apple started using their own custom GPU from the A11.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by zoom6628 »

Action button looks to me they finally realized how good the blackberry action button was. Only took 20 years. Can we have the optical pointer back as well so we don't have to jab all over the glass which is slow and imprecise?

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by selcuka »

snailmailstare wrote: post #555
enragedcacti wrote: post #313

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I'm sure the modem contributes, but IMO the battery life is probably mostly from just having a bigger battery due to the new internal design (and maybe chemistry changes). The new design moves the frame's structure into the middle of the sandwich, making it more rigid and allowing them to make the frame thinner to pack in more battery. Lots of people are mad about losing magsafe but in magsafe phones the magnets sit…

Sounds reasonable, but why can't we just compare it, the mAh of this phone's battery is a secret or something?

> the mAh of this phone's battery is a secret or something

It can easily be measured from the time required to fully charge the phone (when turned off), and continuously monitoring the power it draws from the charger.

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Post by paulcole »

deergomoo wrote: post #176

At this point there’s only really one thing I want from an iPhone and that’s an option for a 12/13 mini sized device again. Surely those phones didn’t sell so few that it’s not worth doing at all?

> Surely those phones didn’t sell so few that it’s not worth doing at all?

That is literally what happened.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by throwaway4731 »

kmeisthax wrote: post #573
throwaway4731 wrote: post #511

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The hard part is not the modem design per se. The hard part is designing a good modem while also unambiguously working around all the Qualcomm patents in all the jurisdictions that have iPhone, which is all of them. Because if you don’t do that, you’re still paying Qualcomm which defeats an important purpose of making your own modem.

All those patents are standards-essential, which means Qualcomm (and anyone else involved in the standardization process for cellular networks) has to license them under "FRAND[0]" terms, which at least for this scenario means "for the same price we'd license them to Samsung or Intel[1]". It also means that design-arounds are not possible; if you design a different technology from the one Qualcomm owns, you're not sp…

I’ll admit with not being up to speed here, my information is actually fairly old, but Qualcomm is famous for skirting its FRAND obligations and as far as I know “no license, no chips” is still de rigor. https://www.sunsteinlaw.com/publications/no-license-no-chips...

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by hyperpl »

I have a (regular) Pixel 8 and given that this is smaller and finally has USB-C I'm very tempted to try to jump to Apple again but I'm curious about the following:

1. Is there a terminal equivalent like termux?

2. Is there an open source wireguard client like the official wireguard client for Android?

3. Is it possible to upload mp4 videos to it to watch offline?

4. Is it possible to upload some of my mp3 collection to it to play offline?

5. I believe syncthing isn't officially supported. Are there any alternative syncthing implementations or workarounds?

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by nominated1 »

coldpie wrote: post #276
deergomoo wrote: post #176

At this point there’s only really one thing I want from an iPhone and that’s an option for a 12/13 mini sized device again. Surely those phones didn’t sell so few that it’s not worth doing at all?

The iPhone 13 Mini all by itself sold about the half of the rate of the entire Google Pixel lineup. There is a market for small phones from a reputable manufacturer. Source: Google shipped about 10 million Pixel phones in a year https://9to5google.com/2024/02/22/pixel-2023/ iPhone Mini accounted for about 3% of iPhone sales https://9to5mac.com/2022/04/21/cirp-iphone-13-best-selling-l... iPhones sell about 200 million…

> The iPhone 13 Mini all by itself sold about the half of the rate of the entire Google Pixel lineup.

How much of that was due to the SE 2 being available at a better price while meeting most prospective customers needs?

Personally I was looking forward to an upgrade... but not now.

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