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Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by spokaneplumb »

basfo wrote: post #597
danudey wrote: post #554

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I saw an interesting analysis years ago about whether or not the most powerful console 'won' in each generation (i.e. whether or not being the most powerful console of your generation leads to success). Generally speaking, no, it doesn't actually affect things, and in several cases (e.g. the Game Boy, the Wii, and the Switch come to mind) the objectively 'worse' console (from a tech perspective) was more successful b…

It's interesting how many people see the Switch as being in its own category rather than acknowledging it as the winner of this console generation (which I completely agree it is). Most people think the “console” battle is between PlayStation and Xbox, and that PlayStation is the winner. This is probably a big win for PlayStation’s marketing team.

I kinda think that way when buying. The Nintendo console is the Nintendo console. If you want what they do, you're buying it. The other two are where the competition is and where there's a decision of which one, not buy this single product or don't. They're much closer to being interchangeable than the Switch is with either of them.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by maronato »

joshstrange wrote: post #439
irrational wrote: post #435

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Isn't the point of owning a switch to play games that aren't on the Steam Deck? Zelda, Mario, etc.?

With emulators those games can also be played on the Steam Deck.

Why pay for the Steam Deck, though? Buy it online and claim it never arrived to get a refund.

I’m yet to hear a moral argument for emulating current games you don’t own unless you’re poor and need to choose between buying Zelda and starving.

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Post by daveoc64 »

10729287 wrote: post #371
chungy wrote: post #206

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Nintendo has tended to maintain at most 1 generation of backwards compatibility, though you can get some fuzzy ideas of "generations" in a few cases. Game Boy Color: plays original Game Boy games Game Boy Advance: plays Game Boy and Game Boy Color games Nintendo DS: plays Game Boy Advance games Nintendo DSi: plays Nintendo DS games Nintendo 3DS: plays Nintendo DS and DSi games Nintendo New 3DS: plays Nintendo DS, DSi…

>Nintendo New 3DS: plays Nintendo DS, DSi, and (old) 3DS games I know HN doesn't have any room for sarcasm but I couldn't not laugh trying to remember what were the NEW 3ds games. Sure the second pad made the 3DS way more comfortable to play, and 3D was a bit better, but we all got scammed here regarding games supporting this new hardware.

The New 3DS consoles did have double the RAM and an improved CPU and GPU, so there were quite a few games like Minecraft and the SNES Virtual Console that could only run on the New models.

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Post by Brendinooo »

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The Switch is genuinely one of the last pieces of hardware I was really excited about, and I can't say that about much anymore. It's extremely well put together, I've repaired mine a number of times with no issues (honestly opening anything made in Japan is a joy, the engineering is so good) and the specs leave a lot to be desired, which is unfortunate, but at the same time, you wouldn't know it while using it. The X…

Except for the drifting joycons problems. We had to replace many. Hope Switch2 fixes that drift.

New Switch user, believe it or not. I just purchased my second 8BitDo controller with Hall effect joysticks this week. Hoping I can avoid the drift problem by avoiding Joy-Cons! (We usually play on the TV.)

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Post by skissane »

adriand wrote: post #590
adamc wrote: post #481

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That last sentence is worth an essay of its own. Everyone else keeps pumping resources into being photo-realistic blah-blah-blah without nearly enough attention to "is this fun"?

I can't remember where I read this, but I came across someone talking about the fact that these AAA photo realistic games are hugely expensive to make, but if you look at what young people are spending their time playing, they're games like Fornite, Minecraft and Roblox. As soon as I read this, it clicked for me. I have two teenagers (15 & 17) and this is exactly right. My son plays games all the time and although he…

> and this other 2D game with a platformer vibe whose name I forget that has procedurally generated maps.

Terraria?

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by EA-3167 »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #608
EA-3167 wrote: post #598

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The good news is that the best Nintendo platform is also the best mobile platform: The Steam Deck. It plays Nintendo games better than Nintendo consoles do, and as a bonus, it plays everything else.

Have you ever tried to dock a Steam deck to a TV? Have you ever tried to use physical media with a Steam deck? Have you ever tried to get 5 hours of battery life with a Steam deck? Have you ever put a Steam deck in your pocket? (I do have big pockets, but at least with the Switch Lite, it's possible.) Nintendo will be just fine. I personally will never use a platform that can kick me out on a whim, or could screw me…

I didn't mean that Nintendo was in trouble, I just meant what I said: the best way to play Nintendo's games isn't on Nintendo platforms. For me, I'm not going to be playing games away from the ability to plug in or dock for 5 hours. I don't put expensive electronics in my pocket, and yeah I've docked my Deck to a TV... it's great. As for physical media, why would I want to use that?

But sure, if you hate Steam on principle then obviously it isn't for you. In my 19 years of using steam I've never had any problems though, and I suspect that's true for most people.

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Post by klausa »

delecti wrote: post #382
vel0city wrote: post #370

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The trailer shows the joycons sliding on that side with an additional attachment (see: 1:10). It seemed pretty obvious they were trying to hint at some kind of mouse-like optical tracking on a flat surface. https://youtu.be/itpcsQQvgAQ?t=70

That could well be what those are, but to me they just looked like the wrist-straps, like the original Switch has. https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/joy-con-strap-gra...

They're both.

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Post by filleduchaos »

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Man that's 100% on the indie dev. Most people don't buy indie games for cutting-edge graphics. You start pushing the envelope, you get what you get.

What a bizarre thing to say. People buy indie games for all sorts of different reasons, and sometimes it's the beautiful art style.

"Beautiful art style" and "cutting-edge graphics" are nowhere near synonymous. They are orthogonally related at best (and many people would even argue that they are opposing goals).

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by klausa »

sefke wrote: post #408
fredoralive wrote: post #400

Kinda tells us nothing, but I guess they got fed up with their supply chain leaking absolutely everything about the physical device before they could announce stuff. I guess the direct will be interesting when they show some actually software and we can get a bit of a handle on what the device can actually do (although the MORE POWER type people are going to be disappointed, probably).

At least we know for sure that it's backwards compatible with the old Switch.

This has been announced back in November: https://x.com/NintendoCoLtd/status/1853972163033968794; though if you're not extremely plugged in, it has been rather easy to miss.
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