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Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by chirau »

SurgeArrest wrote: post #530

Reading this on 2017 iMac 27" - is the first 5k iMac that couldn't be used as a monitor after the computer inside is irrelevant. I hope EU will push for some law that requires all AIO computers to work in monitor-only mode if internal hardware is no longer good enough or no longer supported by software updates. I love the 5k screen on this iMac but the CPU is too old for photo or video editing as software got so much…

If you have no intent to use it longer, please do let me know. I am always looking for machines, books etc to give to my former high school in southern Africa. I'm in the US and can get it shipped

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by throwaway48476 »

seam_carver wrote: post #593
SurgeArrest wrote: post #530

Reading this on 2017 iMac 27" - is the first 5k iMac that couldn't be used as a monitor after the computer inside is irrelevant. I hope EU will push for some law that requires all AIO computers to work in monitor-only mode if internal hardware is no longer good enough or no longer supported by software updates. I love the 5k screen on this iMac but the CPU is too old for photo or video editing as software got so much…

Please don't landfill it. Recycle it responsibibly once it's lifetime is over by recycling it to Apple or taking it to a local electronics recycler like Best Buy.

It's reduce, reuse, recycle. And recycle is last for a reason.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by nozzlegear »

colejohnson66 wrote: post #551
jmspring wrote: post #550

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"good reasons"? What would be those?

I've seen countless people upset that Apple is now "forcing" them to throw away their perfectly good cables again (to replace with USB-C).

My sisters are two living examples of said people. They both asked me why Apple was suddenly switching the cables for their new phones and tablets, when they already had everything on one cable type (lightning) and it was convenient. Now it's inconvenient for them and they didn't understand what the big deal was with usb-c.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by js2 »

IndrekR wrote: post #547
js2 wrote: post #275

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I commented elsewhere, but my uncle is on his third iMac in 30 years. He keeps them a decade at a time. My father is still using an Intel iMac. Normal people do not upgrade their computers after purchase. Displays are generally not something that fail. These machines are capable of providing a decade or more of service to normal people.

First iMac was released in 1998.

I rounded too aggressively. His first iMac was the G4 on a stalk (2002). The second was one of the aluminum pre-Retina Intel models, perhaps 2012. He just purchased his third earlier this year. So, three iMacs in 22 years, but I expect him to keep this one for at least a decade too, at least 5 years, so that will get him to three iMacs in 27 years at minimum.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by waynecochran »

jjtheblunt wrote: post #570
SurgeArrest wrote: post #530

Reading this on 2017 iMac 27" - is the first 5k iMac that couldn't be used as a monitor after the computer inside is irrelevant. I hope EU will push for some law that requires all AIO computers to work in monitor-only mode if internal hardware is no longer good enough or no longer supported by software updates. I love the 5k screen on this iMac but the CPU is too old for photo or video editing as software got so much…

> Apple is only "green" in their presentations - in reality they care more about inifite sales only. needs citation. I say this as someone who worked several years in engineering at Apple, and they were extremely environmentally conscientious years before it was a thing.

It's simple. I have a old iMac w a 5K screen. I would like to just but a now Mac Mini and keep using my iMac as a monitor. Instead my 5K iMac will end up in a landfill. Which is less green.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by vid »

grecy wrote: post #531
vid wrote: post #430

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I think the OP's point is that Apple is forcing people to pay a lot more for something that doesn't cost Apple that much (extra RAM) and is part of artificial product lines. One could claim the product lines are important for ultimate profitability, but Apple makes so much money it's hardly critical if they wanted to be a truly incredible consumer focused company. Apple has gotten far away from the idea of a home com…

Then it sounds like OP ( and yourself) should spend your money elsewhere. I mean, I’m livid Ferrari don’t make a cheap commuter for my family and 9 dogs. So I shop elsewhere.

Oh, I do take my money elsewhere. However, your livid-ness is a lot more misplaced compared to expecting a very massive, "user friendly," general computing company that "thinks different" to give the people what they want.

Re: New iMac with M4

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xyst wrote: post #421
js2 wrote: post #256

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My uncle is on his third iMac. He owns them for a decade at a time. When he sends emails, the subject is always "From " because he shared an email account with my aunt years ago and even though he no longer does, he still puts his name in the subject. That's the target buyer.

glorified e-mail client for $1200. Nice.

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Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by taeric »

jfoster wrote: post #519
taeric wrote: post #149

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I'd be interested in numbers on some of this. From my view, the upgradability is a bit of a red herring for most users. Computers are fast enough for most uses that it just doesn't matter.

That's a really good point. It's been more than a decade since I last upgraded a computer.

This is what had me thinking this is a red herring.

I remember buying computers in the past piece wise with an eye for what component I would want next. I... can't remember the last time I did this. And for my kids, it is not something they are interested in. At all.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by jibbers »

rzzzt wrote: post #554
SurgeArrest wrote: post #530

Reading this on 2017 iMac 27" - is the first 5k iMac that couldn't be used as a monitor after the computer inside is irrelevant. I hope EU will push for some law that requires all AIO computers to work in monitor-only mode if internal hardware is no longer good enough or no longer supported by software updates. I love the 5k screen on this iMac but the CPU is too old for photo or video editing as software got so much…

If you have the inclination and skills, it can be converted to an absolutely-zero-smartness display using an LCD driver board (this example conversion log used the A1419's housing with a separately purchased display panel): https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/diy-5k-monitor-success....

Absolutely do this. I built one and use it connected to a MacBook Pro. Building it was straightforward and 99% plug-and-play.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by throwaway48476 »

cube2222 wrote: post #127
DeathArrow wrote: post #116

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> 16GB base RAM, they finally did it. I've paid €200 for 128GB RAM in my PC. How much does Apple charge for 128GB of memory?

I get your point, and Apple doesn't price RAM cheap, but it's worth noting that any RAM doesn't equal any other RAM. There's a ton of ram types with varying performance levels, and in apple's case it's RAM with direct and performant access from the graphics card (unified memory).

RAM is literally a JEDEC standard.
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