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Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by GreenWatermelon »

makeitdouble wrote: post #564
davidy123 wrote: post #336

I've been an Android user since day 1, but am very impressed by some of these features. I'd love to have the half-click to focus feature and other dedicated camera button features, macro, a few other things that put this generation in a next category. I'd like to see them catch up and surpass all of Google's onboard AI features, and it looks like they're working on it. Being able to find a section of a video by a vag…

> I'd love to have the half-click to focus feature and other dedicated camera button features That would be Sony's phones for you. They're great for raw photography, especially if you process it yourself from raw. Downsides behind...it's a Sony. And they also don't have any interest in AI and advanced software features.

Lack of interest in AI is a pro for me, not a con.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by robwwilliams »

theptip wrote: post #589
iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

I would agree on say 14->15 but I find it somewhat ironic that this version contains what could be one of the biggest changes in many years; Apple Intelligence is putting local-first LLMs into the OS. I predict that in retrospect this will be considered a watershed moment in computing.

Yes, this is the right take on future phone/assistants. We will be entering a new world of search and much better Q&A. I’m hooked in Claude on my phone and having some local mini AI help could be a game changer

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by prepend »

makeitdouble wrote: post #517
arcticbull wrote: post #274

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If the iPhone would have true user-swappable batteries, their business would collapse. Battery replacement costs at Apple are $69-99 and offered all the way back to the iPhone SE 1st Generation. That's the all-in cost where you bring it in, they open it up, swap it out, and give your phone back to you. An OEM battery for an Android phone is like $50. Budgeting $69-99 once every 3-4 years hardly seems like it's goin…

> iPhone SE 1st Generation To note, that's a regional thing. It seems to stop at gen2 for Asian countries for ex. > Budgeting $69-99 once every 3-4 years iPhone batteries become subpar way faster than that, especially the older models who get more strained as they bear the heavier OS. Once every year and a half looks more realistic to me.

I typically keep mine for about 3-4 years. I’ve never replaced the battery.

And I’ve never met anyone who replaces their battery after a year and a half. At least not an iPhone.

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Post by AmVess »

mithr wrote: post #349
iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

I don't know that I completely agree. To some degree, sure — most folks probably don't notice the year-to-year updates in e.g. computing power. But my 70yo mother, who is pretty far from being technologically savvy, uses continuity every day to copy one-time-use codes from her phone to her computer, even though she'd have no idea what the term "continuity" means in this context. She notices that it's easier to snap b…

I recently bought my little ma a new big ipad. Her first response to it was "holy cats, this is fast!"

She used an A14 Bionic equipped ipad.

She is in her 80's.

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Post by tlonista »

iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

I've been in tech for 35+ years. I've built CPU architectures, I can write device drivers, I can layout an 8 layer PCB, I can design an RF power amplifier.

I like the iPhone because it is easier to use than Android. My iPhone 4 was perfect. I'd still be using it if they haven't deprecated the OS and the battery died.

I have exactly 6 non-apple Apps on my current phone.

I want FEWER features. Integrated it or hide it. Don't make me have to learn about a new button, or switch, or setting or some magical tweak to use the basic features. If enthusiasts want to sniff and twiddle every last setting, go for it: give them dozens of settings until they burst. Just bury those settings away from me, or better yet: have a pro-mode setting that fills the GUI with all these features.

I want something easy to use with as few knobs as possible, and the ability to factory reset every app in case I screw up and accidentally flip some esoteric setting.

All of my college buddies and age-equivalent work peers (mid/late 50s) feel exactly the same way.

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Post by busymom0 »

ben_w wrote: post #298
iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

Even as an iOS app developer, there's a huge amount of stuff that stock iOS can do that I'm unaware of. At this point, I'm not going to be interested (dead battery isn't "interested") in the upgrade cycle until there's a new kind of sensor, e.g. thermal imaging or (technically possible in software) repurposing the WiFi as a wall penetrating radar. Even on the dev side, WWDC for the last few years feels more like "her…

I am an iOS developer too and I use an iPhone 13 before which I used an iPhone 6 until its support was dropped. I prefer developing with older devices as it helps me ensure my apps work well on slower devices. I haven't seen any reason to upgrade for the last 3 years. Switching from iPhone 6 to 13 was the most needed change for me due to the change in safe area insets (notch).

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by sib »

llm_nerd wrote: post #216
swyx wrote: post #113

i clipped the 5 mins on apple intelligence here for those interested https://x.com/swyx/status/1833231875537850659 notes: - photos/album search now includes video understanding, which imo seems very good from the first 2 examples they showed. includes scroll to exact time of the moment you describe. - Mail and Notifications will show summaries instead of str[:x] - Siri now knows iPhone, becomes the ultimate manual on…

"- camera adds events to calendar!" I'm on iOS 18.0 on my iPhone 15 Pro, rather that the 18.1 with the "AI". Recently had an eye doctor appt for one of my children and they scheduled a follow-up, giving me a little card with the details. I was in a hurry so took a picture of it intending to enter the calendar event later, and it immediately pulled up a fully-filled in, completely accurate new calendar event. Little a…

As opposed to Adobe [R] Photoshop [R] Lightroom [TM]* Classic's person identification feature which has identified my dog as no fewer than 5 different members of my family, ranging from ~5 years old to > 90 years old.

* I think I got that name right...

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by silverlake »

phil21 wrote: post #301
ghaff wrote: post #271

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>If the iPhone would have true user-swappable batteries, their business would collapse. I was with you up to there. Do you really think that people are so lazy or stupid that they wouldn't go to any of the zillion battery replacement places (including Apple Stores) rather than buying a new $1K-$1.5K device?

Yes. Because it’s a giant pita to drop your phone off and be without it for an indefinite period of time (if something goes wrong). For a device worth a couple hundred dollars it typically makes more sense to trade it in and simply upgrade. Especially if you are paranoid and refuse to hand a third party your phone full of private data. If I need to wipe and restore that is a huge time sink I’d rather future proof aga…

I don’t know where you live but I get the battery swapped while I’m standing there. It’s insane that you’d rather spend $800 than be without your phone for a few hours.

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Post by askafriend »

usaphp wrote: post #285

I love how ridiculous the scene to showcase Apple's Intelligence ability to tell you what bread the dog was. Instead of simply asking a women what breed her dog was - he had to open a camera app on his iPhone, ask a women a permission to take a photo of the dog, wait until the AI gives him an answer...

I think it was meant to be tongue-in-cheek humor. You can tell based on how they shot the scene.
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