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Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by biztos »

weitendorf wrote: post #611
zamfi wrote: post #577

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Acquisitions.

Not the case with the main Google SF office (except now some buildings are indeed the results of acquisitions) but definitely for San Bruno and varied for the other ones.

I had the impression the Google SF office was for capturing that talent that would not be bothered to commute south; but that for most people there it was a career dead end, if you weren’t in Mountain View you weren’t in the game.

At least that’s what the people I know who worked there told me, I don’t have any real inside knowledge and the stories could be wrong despite being plausible.

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Post by fantasybuilder »

tarsinge wrote: post #483
aqme28 wrote: post #346

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My first week working in a finance firm in midtown Manhattan there was a significant shooting. These things happen everywhere (edit: in the US) unfortunately. I'm not convinced that a more suburban location that forces people to drive would actually be any safer.

Not "everywhere", as an European that grew up in a big city (Paris) that's unthinkable.

That's a really surprising example. Paris has nearly identical crime level to San Francisco.

From personal experience, I did not feel particularly safe in Paris when visiting (compared to e.g. Berlin).

Moreover, Paris has several neighborhoods and suburbs that are very unsafe and most people avoid going there. One could say Tenderloin in SF has a similar reputation, but it's very small and easy to avoid.

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bastardoperator wrote: post #443
seizethecheese wrote: post #399

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I’ve had several meetings, either in Twitter office or around it, and the street scene is very bad in that part of SF. If the claim is that this is a motivation for the move, it certainly passes the sniff test for me.

So you've been able to gauge life and the street scene in SF based on several meetings? That's super interesting. I would argue the Embarcadero is fairly nice and I live here, but what do I know.

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Post by oceanplexian »

julianeon wrote: post #489
ionwake wrote: post #80

As a UK chap, can someone give me their opinion on if San Jose is a more pleasant place to live than San Fran these days?

They are very different propositions. San Jose: your average American city, in terms of looks, but considerably more upscale. San Francisco: an NYC-style "world-class city." It's trying for that title in terms of tempo, density, architecture. Doesn't always succeed of course, but the cities are fundamentally going after different goals.

It was a bit of an imitation of NYC at the peak of the pre-COVID boom, but I travel to both regularly, NYC has 100x more energy than SF. SF is akin to cities like Austin or Denver, we’re talking a city with only an 800k population.

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Post by fantasybuilder »

WheatMillington wrote: post #508
aqme28 wrote: post #346

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My first week working in a finance firm in midtown Manhattan there was a significant shooting. These things happen everywhere (edit: in the US) unfortunately. I'm not convinced that a more suburban location that forces people to drive would actually be any safer.

I have lived 39 years here in New Zealand and have never witnessed or been near a shooting. I'm not saying shootings have never happened in New Zealand, but the idea that these things "happen everywhere" is asinine.

San Francisco has nearly 8 times higher population density than Auckland.

Add to that other factors like the size of the CA economy (wealth attracts crime), a lax criminal system, attractive social services (compared to the rest of the US), etc etc. It's an apples to oranges comparison.

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Post by DoughnutHole »

thih9 wrote: post #600

Is the constant stream of flamebait (this action and other recent changes) helpful for twitter, or part of some larger strategy? To me the service seems increasingly unreliable and unprofessional. Then again, I no longer feel like I'm the target audience. The numbers seem bad too; revenue was 22% down in 2023[1]. Also, "global active daily users of X via mobile apps had steadily declined during the year after Musk ac…

Musk’s tweets and the unimpeded use of the platform for misinformation and coordinated violence give me the impression that he cares less about turning it into a profitable enterprise and more about its use as a tool to push his agenda and affect the cultural and political changes he desires.

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Post by BobAliceInATree »

philsnow wrote: post #428

> Twitter — which at the time was threatening to move to Brisbane Wow , that does not seem like it would jive with the local character for Brisbane, from what little I know of it.

Brisbane, California not Australia.

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Post by AlbertCory »

silisili wrote: post #590
curiousllama wrote: post #481

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Cities' attractiveness feels u-shaped Young adults love it bc they have the time to go to bars/restaurants/clubs Middle aged folks hate it because they're so busy - they can't take advantage, and other people get in their way (some) Older folks like it again bc they have the time to go to restaurants/theater

Don't forget access to doctors and hospitals. I browse city-data at times out of boredom, and it's a major concern for retired people considering relocating anywhere.

In fact I know a retired guy who moved to Maui, and then moved back. The principal reason was the saying they have, "If you have a pain, get on a plane."

You might get served in Honolulu. Quite often you're flying to the mainland, though.

That said, living right in the city isn't necessary at all. The 'burbs have almost every facility you could want.

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Post by KerrAvon »

trgn wrote: post #629
thatfrenchguy wrote: post #610

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I don't know, the residential neighborhoods of SF are the perfect place to raise a family if you make tech money: dense enough that there is a ton of stuff to do and your kid knows other kid nearby, low density enough that you get 1500-2500sqft to yourself.

turn of the century suburbs truly are goldilocks neighborhoods.

genuinely curious which century you mean?

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Post by AlbertCory »

tomcam wrote: post #605
spiderfarmer wrote: post #531

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Exactly this. I grew up on a farm, was a student in the city, started a family in the countryside and I want to retire in a city, as long as it’s close to my children.

Did you… did you, ah, raise spiders on the family farm?

Is that a Thing? I'm so behind /s
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