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Re: GPT-4o

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Post by usefulcat »

jimkleiber wrote: post #508

I worry that this tech will amplify the cultural values we have of "good" and "bad" emotions way more than the default restrictions that social media platforms put on the emoji reactions (e.g., can't be angry on LinkedIn). I worry that the AI will not express anger, not express sadness, not express frustration, not express uncertainty, and many other emotions that the culture of the fine-tuners might believe are "bad…

> Almost like it might become an AI "yes man."

Seems like that ship sailed a long time ago. For social media at least, where for example FB will generally do its best to show you posts that you already agree with. Reinforcing your existing biases may not be the goal but it's certainly an effect.

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by nox101 »

Quarrelsome wrote: post #549
jimkleiber wrote: post #508

I worry that this tech will amplify the cultural values we have of "good" and "bad" emotions way more than the default restrictions that social media platforms put on the emoji reactions (e.g., can't be angry on LinkedIn). I worry that the AI will not express anger, not express sadness, not express frustration, not express uncertainty, and many other emotions that the culture of the fine-tuners might believe are "bad…

Imagine how warped your personality might become if you use this as an entire substitute for human interaction. Should people use this as bf/gf material we might just be further contributing to decreasing the fertility rate. However we might offset this by reducing the suicide rate somewhat too.

In general, it's getting harder and harder for men and women to find people they want to be with.

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2021/10/05/rising-...

> roughly four-in-ten adults ages 25 to 54 (38%) were unpartnered – that is, neither married nor living with a partner. This share is up sharply from 29% in 1990.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3868557-most-yo...

> More than 60 percent of young men are single, nearly twice the rate of unattached young women

> Men in their 20s are more likely than women in their 20s to be romantically uninvolved, sexually dormant, friendless and lonely. a.

> Young men commit suicide at four times the rate of young women.

Yes, chatbots aren't going to help but the real issue is something else.

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by bambax »

Negitivefrags wrote: post #150

I found these videos quite hard to watch. There is a level of cringe that I found a bit unpleasant. It’s like some kind of uncanny valley of human interaction that I don’t get on nearly the same level with the text version.

Talking with people is hard enough. I need to see the people I'm talking to, or I'd rather write, because it's asynchronous and I have all the time I need to organize my message.

I think all the fakery in those demos help in that regard: it narrows the field of the possible interpretations of what is being said.

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by deepp805 »

With 4o being free, can someone explain what the real benefit is to having Pro? For me, the main benefit was having a more powerful model, but if the free tier also offers this I'm not really sure what I would benefit from

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by larodi »

jimkleiber wrote: post #508

I worry that this tech will amplify the cultural values we have of "good" and "bad" emotions way more than the default restrictions that social media platforms put on the emoji reactions (e.g., can't be angry on LinkedIn). I worry that the AI will not express anger, not express sadness, not express frustration, not express uncertainty, and many other emotions that the culture of the fine-tuners might believe are "bad…

One cool thing about writing, something we all very much appreciate around here, is that it does not take sounds.

But I can see this applied to duner ordering where you got refugees working in foreign countries, cause GPU consumption rocketed climate change to... okay, you know that.

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by hbn »

Hugsun wrote: post #298

Very interesting and extremely impressive! I tried using the voice chat in their app previously and was disappointed. The big UX problem was that it didn't try to understand when I had finished speaking. English is a second language and I paused a bit too long thinking of a word and it just started responding to my obviously half spoken sentence. Trying again it just became stressful as I had to rush my words out to…

> I noticed that the AI in the demo seems to be very rambly

That's been a major issue for me with LLMs this whole time. They can't just give me an answer, they have to spout a whole preamble that usually includes spitting my query back at me and trying to impress me with how many words it's saying, like it's a requirement. You can tell it e.g. "don't give me anything other than the list" but it's annoying to have to ask it every time.

Every AI chat needs a "no yap mode"

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by hackernewds »

IAmNotACellist wrote: post #562
jimkleiber wrote: post #508

I worry that this tech will amplify the cultural values we have of "good" and "bad" emotions way more than the default restrictions that social media platforms put on the emoji reactions (e.g., can't be angry on LinkedIn). I worry that the AI will not express anger, not express sadness, not express frustration, not express uncertainty, and many other emotions that the culture of the fine-tuners might believe are "bad…

Corporate safe AI will just be bland, verbose, milquetoast experiences like OpenAI's. Humans want human experiences and thus competition will have a big opportunity to provide it. We treat lack of drama like a bug, and get resentful when coddled and talked down to like we're toddlers.

which is why I prefer platforms like c.ai that are not just bland bots designed for customer service. actually entertaining.

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by FrostKiwi »

davidhs wrote: post #628

Very impressive. Its programming skills are still kind of crappy and I seriously doubt its reasoning capacity. It feels like it can deep fake text prediction really well, but in essence there's still something wrong it it.

Not sure I agree. The way you interact with LLMs in context of programming has to be tuned to the LLM. Information has to be cut down to show just what is important and context windows are a bit of a red herring right now, as LLMs tend to derail its solution from the target completely, the more information is at play. For some this is more trouble than it's worth.

In certain languages it's almost magical in terms of showing you possible solutions and being a rubber ducky to bounce your own logic off of. (Python, JavaScript, TypeScript) In certain languages it is hopelessly useless beyond commenting on basic syntax. (GLSL)

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