Meta Horizon OS

Post by crowcroft » Tue, Apr 23, 2024, 12:09 AM UTC

ricardobeat wrote: post #367

crowcroft wrote: post #298

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I don't know what exactly is the right analogy for this, but two other points of context which make me discredit this line of thinking. 1. Feature/smart 'Phones' were around before the iPhone *and* were already pretty much ubiquitous. VR headsets don't do much but sit on shelfs (either in people's houses or in distribution centres not being sold). 2. VR has arguably existed in some ways before the Quest, Nintendo Vir…

> VR headsets don't do much but sit on shelfs (sic) Quest has 6+ million monthly active users. Steam 2-3 million. Sony doesn't publish numbers but a good guess is 3-4 million active players. If you allow for some overlap, that's roughly ten million monthly users, and in sales VR is already more successful than a lot of computer platforms of the past.

Post by int_19h » Tue, Apr 23, 2024, 12:10 AM UTC

RockRobotRock wrote: post #625

int_19h wrote: post #386

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There are quite a few options for non-head-tracked wearable display type headsets. Those generally get pitched as "portable cinema" though, e.g.: https://goovis.net/products/g3max (This particular one uses USB-C for video input, but they also sell an HDMI adapter for it.) Of course, in practice it's just a display and can be used for any purpose. I do appreciate the fact that you don't have to mess around with all th…

I would be worried about forking over $1000 to a fly by night company for a product which could easily break. (xreal is also in this category imo but at least its a bit cheaper)

Post by int_19h » Tue, Apr 23, 2024, 12:12 AM UTC

numpad0 wrote: post #464

int_19h wrote: post #361

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I think part of the problem is this weird insistence that VR means having to physically move arms around etc. For most games, the visual experience of VR can vastly improve immersion, but control schemes nearly universally suck. Simulators work so much better largely because they don't fall into the same trap - if you're playing a flight sim, say, you're still probably using the same stick/throttle/pedals as you woul…

That some reason is motion sickness. There has to be consistency with your perception, else it develops into compounding vection feelings. It tend not to apply for vehicular controls hence sim usage.

Post by chiefalchemist » Tue, Apr 23, 2024, 12:15 AM UTC

pavlov wrote: post #145

Shades of Apple licensing the Mac OS to clone hardware vendors in 1995 - 1997. It seems like Meta will be controlling the software experience quite closely, just like Apple did back in the day. There’s an important difference though: Apple made all their money on Mac hardware margins which the nimble clone vendors could undercut. Whereas for Meta, the Quest hardware has always been sold at breakeven or even as a loss…

Post by rainsil » Tue, Apr 23, 2024, 12:19 AM UTC

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rainsil wrote: post #584

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What unexplored space do you think is ripe for a totally new operating system?

A space where operating systems exist to service the operator and not the OS vendor. One that isn’t just a vehicle to push ads and subscriptions to -as-a-service or otherwise act as a siphon to send telemetry up to the mothership. Yes, I know *nix exists but it’s so fractured and every little variant has its own quirks making it difficult to be a general purpose OS that the masses could adopt, IMO.