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In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by Dalewyn »

Bjorkbat wrote: post #479

Funny enough I've been using Firefox as my primary browser for well over a decade, but lately I've struggled to continue letting that remain the case just because of how badly managed Mozilla appears to be. The weird AI website builder thing they released was kind of the straw that broke the camel's back. Besides my many objections to current AI, my bigger issue was that this demonstrated a general lack of focus and…

Mozilla is badly managed[1], at least from the perspective of users and developers.

Nobody outside of the executives can possibly say Mozilla is well managed with a straight face when they fire hundreds of developers and then turn around and pay their CEO /seven million fucking dollars/[2], all the while Firefox continues to slip further into irrelevance.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitchell_Baker#Negative_salary...

[2]: https://assets.mozilla.net/annualreport/2022/mozilla-fdn-990...

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by Vinnl »

38 wrote: post #577
ramblenode wrote: post #536

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Users often depend on websites trusting the client environment they run in. This trust may assume that the client environment is honest about certain aspects of itself, keeps user data and intellectual property secure, and is transparent about whether or not a human is using it." Double-plus-good rights management!

This reads like someone hopelessly out of touch with actual users. Most users don't give a shit if their client is "honest", or if it's respects intellectual property. These are concerns of web admins and media companies. Users just want something to load websites.

No no, it's not the users that care if their client is honest, it's the websites. But users want to use those websites, and therefore whatever is in the website's interest is in the user's interest.

There's a lot you can justify with a creative thought process.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by yetanother12345 »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #30
jamiek88 wrote: post #12

We all switched to Firefox back in the day because it was better. Better than IE, there was no chrome and safari was a joke. Entreaties and ‘trying to make Fetch (firefox) happen’ won’t work, evidently. How do we make Firefox obviously better ? I’m core market for Firefox and just use Safari. Better battery life. And it’s just as good for privacy. At least that’s my impression. Is it wrong? If I don’t use it there’s…

Firefox + uBlock origin is far better than any other browser without UBO.

IMHO, Brave Browser + uBlock origin is far better than any other browser without UBO.

So, perhaps the real difference isn't so much the browser as it is UBO?

(I Know that BB is basically Chromium with some changes, just like Chrome. And, that Chromium is not Chrome)

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by causal »

gunapologist99 wrote: post #578

> switching to the only remaining ethical web browser, Firefox Mozilla is actually not an ethical organization, if ethics mean the things that are espoused in this article. Mozilla receives literally billions from Google[1] every year -- $26,000,000,000.00 in 2021 alone, with only 3% market share. That's a lot of zeros -- some startups might be rather happy to see an annual 26 billion funding round! Mozilla forced pr…

These attacks don't feel like they're being made in good faith.

1. This is patently false. If you read the article you linked you'll see that $26B is Google's total spend on being the default search engine across all platforms including Apple and Samsung devices. Apple gets $18B of that alone. Firefox is a much smaller share, and it's not clear at all why taking this money would be unethical in the first place.

2. Firefox is up-front about the fact they use Pocket to generate revenue, and make it simple to disable.

3. I agree that Firefox should have been more up-front about what gets installed when participating in studies, but it should be noted that Cliqz has since been removed, and this article is 6 years old.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by jftuga »

I recently switched and then made an extension called FoxColorBox which allows you to change and customize browser Window colors. When you open a new window, it will have a distinct color.

This can help you differentiate between home, work, and school. It can also be useful when working in development, staging and production environments.

* https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/foxcolorbox/

* https://github.com/jftuga/foxcolorbox

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by exe34 »

mdaniel wrote: post #579
exe34 wrote: post #323

Can Firefox allow me to kill individual tabs without closing them? It's my favourite feature on Chrome.

Navigate to about:processes and click the X to your heart's content (it's also from Tools : Browser Tools : Task Manager )

Thank you! I do believe I'm ready to switch!

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by pacomerh »

aloukissas wrote: post #117

Surprised nobody mentions this: Firefox DevTools are so, so much better than Chrome's, especially shining in two areas: (a) inspecting layouts with flex/grid; (b) inspecting websocket traffic. Been using FF for 10+ years, never looked back.

What about performance insights? Chrome is pretty good at this

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by hyperthesis »

kube-system wrote: post #408
krastanov wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox out of the box indeed does not cause broken websites. However, the demographic of this forum probably will use Firefox with "Multi-Account Containers", "Temporary Containers", "uBlock Origin", and a few more. These are amazing for privacy and productivity, but will occasionally cause broken websites. Source: I am a Firefox-first user who occasionally uses plugin-less Chrome because the aforementioned plugins…

> Firefox out of the box indeed does not cause broken websites. Firefox doesn't cause broken websites. Websites developers that target only Chrome cause websites to inadvertently become broken in Firefox.

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish

Be evil

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by causal »

mvdtnz wrote: post #506
pivo wrote: post #383

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> God damn is it noisy What is this noise you're referring to? I'm 90% Firefox and 10% Safari and I don't understand this comment.

I know what he's talking about. Firefox has constant nag screens. I just restarted Firefox and got two separate nags[1]. I am certain that within the next week it will nag me for at least one more thing. Maybe it'll want me to try Pocket, or sign in with a Mozilla account, or set up sync, or the absolute worst offender - when I launch the browser it will say "heyyyy I gotta update and I treat this like it's 1998 so y…

This is asking you to make it the default browser, like every other browser does. How is that noisier?
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