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Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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Really? It seems like a glowing appraisal. He seems to think that Sam is devestatingly effective at what he does.

If I didn't know Graham was English, perhaps I would take them at face value - and, indeed, perhaps I should anyway. (And my characterisation was an extreme one!) But: they do just all sound rather coldly backhanded, if you ask me.

Graham moved to the US at age 14. He's as American as he is British.

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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They actually changed the URL structure This is the old URL, and they indeed mentioned Sam leaving https://web.archive.org/web/20190316222853/https://blog.ycom...

Ohhhh thanks. Looking at those it looks like there was an edit: > Updated on 6/12/20 > In May 2019, Geoff Ralston took over as YC President. At that time, Sam Altman stepped away from any formal position at YC. https://web.archive.org/web/20201028062425/https://blog.ycom... And then shortly after the edit disappeared too: https://web.archive.org/web/20210423025128/https://blog.ycom...

You are watching history being made.

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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> played by an actor

What is this comment even trying to say?

“You should leave YC to focus on what you want” is not “you’re fired”

It’s like they’re trying to make a TV drama out of nothing.

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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Really? It seems like a glowing appraisal. He seems to think that Sam is devestatingly effective at what he does.

Graham is English. The English have a wonderful talent for making backhanded “complements.” E.g. “you’re a truly unique individual” or “I always feel more intelligent after speaking with you.” The American convention is to look for the positive and assume that was intended. The English convention is to look for the negative and assume that was the real meaning. E.g. “Sam is going better than you. Do better.” Could me…

'Interesting' -> 'you're barking mad'.

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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simplest explanation is most likely the one nearest the truth

Discovered a while ago by Occam.[1] 1: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor

That’s not how Occam’s Razor works, though, as explained in your link.

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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At least one of the arguments against him, that he cared too much about openai to lead Microsoft effectively, probably helps him more than it hurts. Otherwise, idk how much of this was really about Sam altman as much as it was a staggeringly incompetent board that drove employees and investors to unify and protest en masse to save the organisation from itself. I guess there's a chance there's an AGI in the basement b…

I think you meant YC rather than Microsoft.

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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Even if Graham supposedly booted Altman from Y Combinator, I don't see any reason to assume that a similar disagreement would have occurred in this case. Citing that history also seems to assume that Graham himself is an impeccable judge of character. And we don't necessarily have any reason to believe that. Seems to me like they're swinging at windmills with this narrative. Given that the board provided very few det…

And speaking of Graham's judgement: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38384490 Of course it was flagged within a few minutes.

WTF? Is his account hacked or something?

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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Doesn't this show a vested interest from pg and jessica in OpenAI? So it's hard for them to say anything negative.

As a matter of good policy they wouldn't publicly denounce anyone that was associated with YC.

But it's possible to maintain that good policy without publicly endorsing his side of someone else's argument though...

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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It's oh so weird the article does not mention any of these though... - https://twitter.com/phuckfilosophy/status/163570439893983232... (SA's sister - also have a look at her recent posts) - Also: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/QDczBduZorG4dxZiW/sam-altman... (utterly distressing) - https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1727096607752282485 (check the comment with snapshots of the letter - "strangely" that Gist was dele…

that can't be true- why would sam altman and the rest of their family deny annie altman's inheritance? it's not like they need the money themselves either this annie character is making stuff up, or the whole rest of her family are some kind of comic book villains

I don't know much about her but just the fact she does OnlyFans is enough to cut you out of most families. The type of person who actually goes through with that would either be in big financial need or a general life philosophy most people in society disagree with

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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There are different sets of concerns governing police accountability, transparency, etc., from those governing various different types of corporations, and rightly so.

It makes sense. It's not like corporations have responsibilities that can have life & death impacts on people, or that can radically transform the lives of people who don't even work there. Oh wait...

Does YC? Or are you just irrelevantly musing?

Or is this where we pretend that leading YC is even vaguely similar to being a rogue cop, in terms of potential impact on people’s lives?

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