Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam Altman at OpenAI

Post by bmitc » Sun, Nov 19, 2023, 5:22 AM UTC

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This was a very personal firing in my opinion. Unless other, really damaging behaviors emerge, no responsible board fires their CEO with such a lack of care for the corporate reputation and their partners unless the firing is a personal grievance connected to an internal power play. This should be embarrassing to everyone involved, and sama has a real grievance here. Likely legal repercussions. Of course if they real…

Altman's not going to sue. Right now he has the high ground and the board is the one that looks petty and immature. It would be dumb for him to do anything that reverses this dynamic. Altman is going to move on and announce a new venture in the coming weeks. Whether that venture is in AI or not in AI will be very revealing about what he truly believes are the prospects for the space. Brockman and the others will like…

Post by intexpress » Sun, Nov 19, 2023, 5:26 AM UTC

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> Meanwhile, id under Carmack kept cranking out hit after hit for years, essentially shrugging off Romero's firing like nothing happened. I don't think that is accurate... The output of id Software after Romero left (post Quake 1) was a clear step down. The technology was fantastic but the games were boring and uninspired, at best "good" but never "great". It took a full 20 years for them to make something interestin…

Romero had basically no involvement in Deus Ex. Daikatana was a commercial and critical failure. Quake 2 and Quake III were commercial and critical successes.

Post by dagmx » Sun, Nov 19, 2023, 5:38 AM UTC

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Out of genuine curiosity , and I mean no disrespect , have you worked in film production? Because directors sit in many meetings directing the people on the project. It kind of feels to me like you’re describing the way the industry works from an outsiders view since it doesn’t match the actual workings of any of the productions I’ve worked on. the shoots are only a portion of production. You have significant pre pro…

I suppose that I had and have in mind a certain type of feature film director (usually the good ones) that are involved in all things: pre- and post-production, writing the script, directing, the editing process, etc. Your original comment mentioned auteurs, which is what influenced the type of film director I was thinking of, which often are also producers and even writers and editors on their own films. To my knowl…

Post by glitchc » Sun, Nov 19, 2023, 5:53 AM UTC

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> Sam Altman has been an objectively successful leader of OpenAI. In what way, exactly? ChatGPT would have been built regardless of whether he was there or not. It's not like he knows how to put a transformer pipeline together. The success of OpenAI's product rests on its scientists and engineers, not the CEO, and certainly not a non-technical one like Mr. Altman.

If you want to get really basic: there's no OpenAI at all without Sam Altman, which means there's no ChatGPT either. There are much larger armies of highly qualified scientists and engineers at Google, Microsoft, Facebook, and other companies and none of them created ChatGPT. They wrote papers and did experiments but created nothing even remotely as useful. And they still haven't been able to even fully clone it with…

Post by deanCommie » Sun, Nov 19, 2023, 5:59 AM UTC

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> Meanwhile, id under Carmack kept cranking out hit after hit for years, essentially shrugging off Romero's firing like nothing happened. Romero was fired in 1996 Until this point, as you mentioned id had created multiple legendary franchises with unique lore, attributes, and each one groundbreaking tech breakthroughs: Commander Keen, Wolfenstein 3D, Doom, Quake. After Romero left, id released: https://en.wikipedia.o…

> But the point is for anyone experiencing or interacting with these games today, Quake is Quake. Nobody remembers 1, 2 or 3 - it's just Quake. Quake 3 was unquestionably the pinnacle, the real beginning of esports, and enormously influential on shooter design to this day.