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Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by poisonborz »

fullarr wrote: post #323

If I could unmake the Internet I would in a second, without hesitation. The lack of local community as everyone moves to a global gray sameness is the grossest thing to happen to this world. Using it as a crutch to fool yourself into what you think is normal is not healthy and it's not a solution to real problems. Omegle disappearing is neither surprising nor sad, and it's nothing personal against them specifically.…

Except for potentially most of the population, the internet provided a more vibrant, welcoming, supportive and rich community than their local community ever could. The "gray sameness" is a recent phenomena and commanded by legal and state abuse, that a lot of the commenters above here lament about.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by geraldwhen »

terryf wrote: post #539
otteromkram wrote: post #436

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The owner would probably need city approval to extend their reach onto municipal property (the sidewalk). The store owner might also be required by the city and/or landlord to update their insurance policy to cover the extended liability. But, in general, your proposed scenario never specified what the catastrophic event is and why the store owner would be held liable.

The store owner wants to do something nice for people and in your world the best way to handle that is making them jump through months of bureaucracy and probably paying a lot of money to their insurance and for permits and shit? Yeah, this attitude is why we can't have nice things and building anything costs a billion dollars.

If anyone is injured on your property, you’re liable.

Insurance is meant to handle this risk.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by crossroadsguy »

Omegle was always a horny and abusive place and a place that was so very skin colour sensitive (as usual this skipped the discourse). Pretty much nothing else. I am amused by the mentions of magical place people are lamenting. Besides it was a direct copy of Chatroulette.

But I understand. It’s always the case - one’s revolutionary is another’s terrorist.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by sublimefire »

low_tech_love wrote: post #568

Maybe I’m wrong, but my impression is that it has been a living-dead service for many years already. I’m old enough to remember when it was actually exciting to use Omegle and chat roulette, but I’ve tried on and off for many years now and my impression is that, even at the slight chance that you got someone other than a naked horny weirdo, nobody was really paying attention to the conversation or interested in anyth…

Multiple years ago it was something to us - something new. There are too many people who do not care about it (similar services) these days, people are born with the internet and just take it for granted.

Another analogy could be the gas car industry. We just look at it differently nowadays, we prioritize pollution and do not think much of the fact that you could easily travel around the world in any of these gas guzzlers. You could not do it in a Tesla or any other electric car, yet many want to just kill it off.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by Seattle3503 »

dehrmann wrote: post #494
3np wrote: post #336

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OP doesn't mention anything about a lawsuit - got more information on that? EDIT: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-64618791

The BBC went to his house , he clearly didn't want to talk, so they stayed there for hours, waiting for him to come out? That's is an exceedingly dickish move that should be below the BBC.

The reporter seems insufferable.

> Yells at the man's house "Why aren't you protecting children?"

> Turns to camera "I just wanted to have a civil conversation. He doesn't want to talk... ever"

Sure man, civil conversation.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by Seattle3503 »

IshKebab wrote: post #556
4star3star wrote: post #389

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What happened to the plaintiff was really messed up, but I don't see how it's the site's problem. Suppose you answer a newspaper personal ad, meet up with the person and get all your limbs chopped off. Yeah, that fucking sucks, but we're not about to shut down the newspaper.

Maybe... But if this is a real problem with Omegle (the article mentions that it is a common grooming platform) then it's not like there's nothing they could do. Did it even have age verification? On balance I still think Omegle should win the case, but I don't think it's entirely without merit.

Age verification would probably require some form of ID, killing the site.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by master-lincoln »

andrepd wrote: post #525
dheera wrote: post #516

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe we should create a DeFi version of this that doesn't have an owner and can't be sued. Things like Omegle should be likened to an empty grass field in the middle of town, with nobody responsible for what actually happens on it except the people who choose to be there.

This is a bad take on several levels. First the de-fi angle. You want a distributed application, no need to shoehorn crypto into there. But second and most important: the ultralibertarian angle of "you chose to be there so you take respinsabolity for whatever happens to you" is also not good. For one, there's children. For another, moderation and law enforcement is a good thing. Whatever replaces omegle will almost c…

Children shouldn't be browsing the internet without supervision. If they do I'd argue their parents should be regulated more, not the internet.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by donkeyd »

Blahah wrote: post #103

Gives me chills, that was so heartfelt and raw. Hurt on all sides, but this is a bit like losing access to a public space because someone committed crimes there. One of the greatest things Omegle enabled is this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhzHV9QD0Is (Harry Mack freestyling for random Omegle matches, it was a series of 90+ episodes and brought me and others so much joy during COVID)

Thanks for sharing Harry Mack, never heard of him, but this took me down an emotional rabbit hole. Amazing what music can do.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by ulrikrasmussen »

sublimefire wrote: post #634
low_tech_love wrote: post #568

Maybe I’m wrong, but my impression is that it has been a living-dead service for many years already. I’m old enough to remember when it was actually exciting to use Omegle and chat roulette, but I’ve tried on and off for many years now and my impression is that, even at the slight chance that you got someone other than a naked horny weirdo, nobody was really paying attention to the conversation or interested in anyth…

Multiple years ago it was something to us - something new. There are too many people who do not care about it (similar services) these days, people are born with the internet and just take it for granted. Another analogy could be the gas car industry. We just look at it differently nowadays, we prioritize pollution and do not think much of the fact that you could easily travel around the world in any of these gas guz…

I think that's a very important and true argument, and something I have thought about for a while.

The thing is that these places only have value if people put in an effort, which is more likely to be the case when the platform and/or technology is new and only known by people who a priori have put in an effort to access it at all. When you mostly accessed web sites from desktop computers, you would be limited to use online platforms in the relatively small time window where you had free time at home, so the personal cost of using the platform was higher because you had to choose to take that time from other tasks that also required your computer.

Now everyone have a smartphone in their pockets and can access any online service at any time of the day, so the required effort to use them is a small fraction of what it used to be. As a result, the average user is not motivated to actually put in any effort, and because of this the quality suffers tremendously.

Maybe we should raise that lower bound on effort by requiring users to solve CAPTPTYCs - Completely Automated Programs To Prove That You Care - before you were allowed to interact with anyone online. A sort of proof-of-work for people to ensure that they have spent at least as much time on the content as they have on solving the puzzle that allowed them to publicize it.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by miki123211 »

thrawn0r wrote: post #594

More specific information about why its closing down are lawsuits of groomed minors. press coverage of 1 case: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-64618791

Maybe this needs to start over somewhere in a civil law country (most of Europe) where suing you for something like this is almost impossible.
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