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Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by Clamchop »

tacker2000 wrote: post #497
cglong wrote: post #188

So it goes... Warning: You are using macOS 11. We (and Apple) do not provide support for this old version. It is expected behaviour that some formulae will fail to build in this old version. It is expected behaviour that Homebrew will be buggy and slow. Do not create any issues about this on Homebrew's GitHub repositories. Do not create any issues even if you think this message is unrelated. Any opened issues will be…

Yea the homebrew dev team is pretty user hostile tbh. The more you read their github, the more you realize how insufferable and arrogant they are. It leaves a very bad impression. Also, if you are not going along in the upgrade rabbit race, homebrew gets really annoying and actually in your way at some point. I see myself moving to macports soon, if brew gets worse and the stability of my setup is compromised (lots o…

Ah, the usual flip replies of how you can expect nothing from open source. Software projects, naturally, wanting for neither goodwill nor users.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by tzs »

MilaM wrote: post #614
tzs wrote: post #606

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By upgrades you mean upgrades that change the major OS version, right? Those both should still be getting security updates. Ventura just updated to 13.6 this morning, Monterey updated to 12.7 a few days ago, and Big Sur updated to 11.17.10 a little over two weeks ago. Big Sur is expected to stop getting security updates in a couple months. Monterey will probably get them until sometime in the last quarter of 2024, wh…

Indeed, and I hope Ventura will get at least two years of security fixes. It's still my impression, that the 2017 Macs (sold by Apple well into 2018), should have made the cut for Sonoma. I don't even care about any of the new features. I'm more interested in bug and security fixes. So hopefully I have more time to hunt for the perfect display that can adequately replace the 5K 27" of my current setup. And I know the…

I too have been looking into what can replace the 5K 27" iMac display, because my 2017 5K iMac display has developed a column of bad pixels about 30% in from the right side.

It's been that way for about a year and a half now and has not gotten any worse so I don't think I'm in any danger of suddenly needing a new Mac. The way my iMac happens to be on my desk I'm directly in front of a spot about 30% in from the left and most of my main focus is on the left side, so the bad pixels aren't too annoying.

The 27" 5120 x 2880 display has definitely spoiled me. I want something with a similar density and not much bigger or smaller than 27".

These seem to be the choices currently:

1. Apple Studio Display. As you've noted it is expensive. It also comes with a stand that does not have a height adjustment. Add $400 to get it with Apple's height adjustable stand. (Or for $0 get it with Apple's VESA mount adaptor instead of the standard stand, and buy your own stand. If you can find a VESA compatible height adjustable stand for less than $400 this is cheaper than buying Apple's stand).

One thing to not if like me you would really like a monitor that you can keep using for a very long time is that in 2021 Apple made a change to AppleCare. It used to be that you could buy at most a small fixed number of years of AppleCare. Now you can keep renewing AppleCare indefinitely.

For the Studio Display it is $49.99 per year. If the Studio Display is fine for someone except for the price, it might be worth considering if that plus $49.99 per year, which should let you keep it working for a long time, would make it worth it.

2. LG UltraFine 27MD5KL [1]. Supposedly this is the same LG panel that Apple used in the 5K 27" iMacs. Just under $1300. Seems to get good reviews.

3. Samsung ViewFinity S9 [2]. This is new. $1600 so same as Apple's price for the Studio Display, but the S9 is height adjustable and VESA compatible so no paying extra if you want height adjustability.

[1] https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1500040-REG/lg_27md5k...

[2] https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1760795-REG/samsung_l...

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by RockRobotRock »

semi-extrinsic wrote: post #467
RockRobotRock wrote: post #401

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Window management on macOS sucks so bad. I'm glad they tried to "fix" it, but I don't really like stage manager either.

Have you tried yabai?

I had it starred on GH but never tried. I'll give it a shot.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by toyg »

catlover76 wrote: post #620
toyg wrote: post #607

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That's probably because MacPorts was built by (and for) actual Apple employees, whereas Homebrew was built by someone unrelated who even had to start his own company because FAANGs wouldn't hire him.

> had to start his own company because FAANGs wouldn't hire him. LOL dude... "FAANG" is not the only place to work

But they are definitely at the top end of the compensation and job-security scale, which someone responsible for such a popular piece of infrastructure surely deserves.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by pxc »

adastra22 wrote: post #515
pxc wrote: post #472

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I've never heard someone pronounce it that way in my life until I saw the video. Maybe it's a regional thing, but it sounds like the wrong vowel sound at the end to me.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/fsseq2/comment/f...

Yes, I agree with that post that the USian pronunciation as given there is better than the British one. But Jobs' rendering of the American pronunciation also sounds wrong to me because the final syllable doesn't generally rhyme with 'wire' as I've heard most Americans pronounce the word.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by gumby »

gumby wrote: post #581
tacker2000 wrote: post #497

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Yea the homebrew dev team is pretty user hostile tbh. The more you read their github, the more you realize how insufferable and arrogant they are. It leaves a very bad impression. Also, if you are not going along in the upgrade rabbit race, homebrew gets really annoying and actually in your way at some point. I see myself moving to macports soon, if brew gets worse and the stability of my setup is compromised (lots o…

Please return homebrew for a full refund.

In case it's not clear: I'm paraphrasing Brian Fox's canned reply to people who flamed him about bash when he was writing it.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by Obscurity4340 »

jamie_ca wrote: post #78
Obscurity4340 wrote: post #48

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Is it like Grid or whatever?

It supports halves (horizontal/vertical), thirds (vertical), quarters (vertical or 2x2), and sixths (3x2), plus some variations (move to edge, "almost maximize", bigger, smaller, etc). Also supports variations on those, eg. "middle two quarters" or "right two thirds" if that's your thing. I have an ultrawide external display, and keyboard shortcuts to quickly tile two or three windows at once is where it's at, though…

Installed ;)

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by wwalexander »

wwalexander wrote: post #433
esafak wrote: post #222

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Don't move today, because the Sonoma release is not out yet. https://www.macports.org/install.php

You can just build the latest tarball from source with `./configure && make && make install` [1]. I did so just now without any issues. (You’ll need to install Xcode and the Developer Tools first if you don’t have them already.) [1] https://www.macports.org/install.php#source

Sorry, that should be

   ./configure && make && sudo make install

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by pdimitar »

cameronh90 wrote: post #57
Almondsetat wrote: post #12

You realize OS innovation has ground to a halt when the first feature advertised in a new version is screen savers

A few years ago, people here were complaining that MacOS was too unstable from all the new features, and that they wish Apple would just do a few feature-less stability releases. Can't win.

Nah I'm pretty okay with it, and many other colleagues are as well.

Some of the outrage you see is to be attributed to people expecting fixes of their pet peeves and not getting them, I think.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by amazingman »

prmoustache wrote: post #476
kstrauser wrote: post #11

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Same for me, mostly. I had bumped into problems with apps I use: * Little Snitch needs a nightly build (status: fixed) * SoundSource doesn't work (status: fixed) * SpamSieve v2 doesn't work because Mail.app removed plugin support in favor of extensions. (status: SpamSieve v3 is out now and works) * Marked 2 broke on docs shorter than 999 visible bytes (status: still broken. Workaround: BBEdit text filter to add a bun…

"doesn't work (status: fixed)" What the hell does that mean? If it is fixed, doesn't it means it works?

The language of the parent is in the past tense, i.e. they ran into these issues along the way during the release candidate phase.
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