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Post by pjc50 »

bboygravity wrote: post #492
gochi wrote: post #268

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's two channels here. From a user perspective "what made Twitter great" is also the least attractive parts for any other company to try and mimic. The absurd levels of pornography, the anonymous fan and joke accounts. From a business perspective, "what made Twitter great" was the easy to digest brands, the non-anonymous accounts sharing their day, and journalists/other named professionals providing up to date in…

I find it mind blowing that people refer to Twitter as "once great" now that it is known that it was essentially a disgusting totalitarian political censorship and propaganda tool for one of the 2 political flavors in the US. I just don't get how someone can feel that this is better than what it is now and just casually ignore that fact. I also don't get how people can claim that Twitter is now going to die because "…

Twitter was arguably significant in getting Trump to win the primary and hence get elected.

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Post by pjc50 »

Tepix wrote: post #545
rayxi271828 wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hope Threads won't exhibit the same hostility towards the users as IG does. (What's up with IG and its hostile UX? Videos can't be fast forwarded or tracked at all, profile pictures can't be zoomed, clicking on it brings you to stories, images can't be copied easily, etc.)

Not to mention that you're only allowed a single hyperlink.

That's them trying to rate-limit the use by sex workers. Entire sites have sprung up to turn your single allowed Insta link into a number of other links.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by rcMgD2BwE72F »

dlivingston wrote: post #203
KSPAtlas wrote: post #66

On the fediverse, there's already a huge number of instances planning to block this app when possible as it isn't really in the spirit of the fediverse - it's proprietary, owned by a large company and centralized

My knee-jerk reaction to this is that it's immature posturing. The internet is a decentralized protocol with centralized entities. Email is a decentralized protocol with centralized entities. But for this decentralized protocol (Mastodon/ActivityPub), centralized entities are a bridge too far?

>. The internet is a decentralized protocol with centralized entities

Maybe they're mature enough not to want that?

Sign up to protonmail.com for some privacy, to have your emails not read by Proton Inc., and quickly realize that most – if not all – your contacts are receiving your messages @gmail.com. All your emails will still be exploited by Google Inc.

There are good reasons to want the Fediverse to remain… diverse. Blocking isn't posturing, it's acting.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by hhh »

luckystarr wrote: post #524
modernerd wrote: post #481

“Soon, you’ll be able to follow and interact with people on other fediverse platforms, like Mastodon. They can also find you with your full username @username@threads.net.” [1] Did not expect Fediverse integration from Meta. [1] https://9to5google.com/2023/07/03/threads-instagram-app-coun...

People on the Fediverse expected it very much. Meta already was trying to talk to the larger instances "off the record"[1]. Fediverse users are already planning to boycott any instance which federates with Meta to block any Embrace, Extend and Extinguish moves. [1] https://fosstodon.org/@kev/110592625692688836 edit: More info here: https://wedistribute.org/2023/06/fedipact-blocking-meta/

This behavior is pathetic. As long as Meta is open to federation to other instances, this can only be a good thing for the entire ecosystem.

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Post by 3cats-in-a-coat »

mullingitover wrote: post #93

I'm calling it now, this is going to hollow out twitter in extremely rapid fashion. I give twitter a couple of months once this launches, they'll do a Wile E Coyote where they walk off the cliff, followed by plummeting. Meta is going to grind the blue bird to a fine powder, not saying this as a Meta fan, just a casual observer. There's massive pent-up demand for an alternative, and so far Bluesky and Mastodon haven't…

The stickiness of Twitter isn't just about reliability and handling scale, but also (and in fact mostly) the network effects.

You can't transfer over your content, likes, replies, followers. So even in the best case scenario where Threads picks up and outshines Twitter in the long term, do expect that to be a long term. At least few years.

That is, unless Elon continues on his steady path of catastrophic degradation of the service, which is also possible.

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Post by smcl »

mullingitover wrote: post #93

I'm calling it now, this is going to hollow out twitter in extremely rapid fashion. I give twitter a couple of months once this launches, they'll do a Wile E Coyote where they walk off the cliff, followed by plummeting. Meta is going to grind the blue bird to a fine powder, not saying this as a Meta fan, just a casual observer. There's massive pent-up demand for an alternative, and so far Bluesky and Mastodon haven't…

I'm not exactly bullish on Twitter, nor a fan of Musk, but I don't think it'll happen quite that way. I suspect Twitter will lose in the long run but it won't be this sudden or as soon.

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Post by mmcnl »

john_max_1 wrote: post #172

When was the last time, Facebook launched a successful standalone product? - WhatsApp - acqusition - Instagram - acquistion - Messenger - acquisition - Oculus - acquisition Facebook has DNA to optimize feeds. It, simply, lack the DNA to build good products from scratch. My gut feeling no one will care about Threads, 6 months from now. EDIT: - Facebook was all-in on cryptocurrencies. The project is fully gone. - Faceb…

Instagram obliterated Snapchat with Stories.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by Uptrenda »

I'm so tired of chat apps. Every chat app is the same crap done over and over again... But apparently its 'new' and you need to download it because its the only one X uses, yayyyy. It's like scheduling: the problem was solved already but everyones obsessed with redoing them.

Does anyone who works on apps / software / whatever ever consider how tiring it is to have to adopt all this sheet? It's like the digital equivalent of fashion. Literally just waxes and wanes between apps that are all functionally the same based on trends.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by lopis »

keyle wrote: post #189

Wait, where is the web version? A big part of twitter is the web client... and embedded tweets all over the internet. Did they start this product by cloning instagram and removing the image centric approach? Why is this not a website first? My gut feel is that this competes as much with instagram as it does with Twitter.

> A big part of twitter is the web client

I think this is arguable. It might be a big part for you, but most people probably use the mobile app.

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