The way I see it is that the main difference between FANG and TikTok is that the FANG companies do not have any incentive to sow distrust and division in the United States through highly targeted propaganda, however, TikTok being effectively controlled by the CCP does.
FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores
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Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores
#632Title is misleading - This wasn't a statement made by the FCC.
It was made by Brendan Carr, who works for the FCC, but the request is not an official FCC request.
Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores
#633Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Two out of those three countries have never invaded outside countries Limiting ourselves to the currently existing states, India has annexed Hyderabad, Junagardh, Dadra, and Nagar Haveli, while China has invaded India and Vietnam, and is presently annexing the South China Sea. This doesn't excuse the US actions in Iraq, but it does show that they are less unique than you claim.
Most of those were merged into India, not invaded. The ones that were invaded resulted in minimal losses, in the order of hundreds. It also happened 60 years ago. Now compare this to Afghanistan.
> Now compare this to Afghanistan.
The same Afghanistan that was invaded by the Soviet Union?
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I trust China more than the Koch brothers.
You trust them to do what?
Not do this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_activities_of_the_Ko...
A healthy middle-class in America, with immediate needs like healthcare and housing met, is China's best interests as that means Americans have more money to spend on consumer goods.
The Koch Brothers want to dismantle all the organs of state they don't approve of.
Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores
#635> but the annoying part is that the same rules don't get applied across
Yeah! Why do I have to sponsor hires who happen to be not legal citizen. I have to hop all these hops to hire while your local grocery store doesn't have to sponsor anyone! So annoying /s obviously
Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores
#636It is unacceptable that it took this long for people to realize this.
Google and FB and beholden to US regulations, and have shown zero evidence that they would defy Uncle Sam. They aren’t the same thing at all.
Ban TikTok now. China banned our apps decades ago. What is taking us so long?
Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores
#637Earlier quoted context omitted.
You trust them to do what?
Not do this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_activities_of_the_Ko... A healthy middle-class in America, with immediate needs like healthcare and housing met, is China's best interests as that means Americans have more money to spend on consumer goods. The Koch Brothers want to dismantle all the organs of state they don't approve of.
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Because it's a cyclic argument that only leads to hostilities. Of course I'm not advocating that if we stop collecting data everyone will suddenly play nice. But that doesn't mean it isn't extraordinarily hypocritical to moan about China and the EU placing restrictions on US companies (as is a frequent gripe on HN) while simultaneously placing restrictions on China and EU firms too. We need to learn to find a saner m…
I see very few (zero?) people groaning about data restrictions set by the EU.
That doesn't mean it hasn't happened on threads you haven't seen. Anecdotally I've seen it happen a lot. Which, uncoincidentally, is also the reason why I mentioned it.
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> EUropean here. > Who cares? Is this an American thing to always brag something about race, or how much "non-racist we are"? It matters because it's unprecedented in the United States, which is far more diverse than any other country in the world by a long shot. Think about all the racial tension that exists in most European countries from some sizable "outsider" populations. Roma in most of Europe. Polish in Englan…
>United States, which is far more diverse than any other country in the world Here’s one fundamental problems with many Americans: they know nothing about outside world.
Name a more ethnically/racially diverse country.
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#640Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not do this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_activities_of_the_Ko... A healthy middle-class in America, with immediate needs like healthcare and housing met, is China's best interests as that means Americans have more money to spend on consumer goods. The Koch Brothers want to dismantle all the organs of state they don't approve of.
How about these? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23480918 , https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23506580 .
And the FBI backdoored skype to silently shut off encryption, back when it was truly peer-to-peer.
China never did that to me.