I know I'm getting ahead of myself and there's a lot of work on this space but please consider something similar for phones too
The new and upgraded Framework Laptop
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#632I'm happy to answer any questions around this! We've been working on this since update since we launched the product last year, so we're excited to be able to share it today.
Any chance to have a trackpoint-style pointing device in the future?
Are there any patent issues to deal with for that?
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The EU means it would be entirely legal and tariff-free for a company in France to ship a product to Spain as-is, with minimal caveats. But that won't be a desirable product for most Spanish customers. The vast majority of that list has nothing to do with laws, but with physical requirements (keyboard and power plug), payments (not standardized beyond bank transfers), localization, and logistics.
I'd expect a cable C5 to Shucko to work everywhere in Europe (at worst you change the cable for preference to avoid an adapter)
And would not be acceptable in any other country than Germany legally. Got bitten by that while searching for industrial plug…
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Control Panel > Mouse > ThinkPad > Slow ---[]- Fast slider almost all the way to right sudo sh -c "echo 240 > /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio2/sensitivity" This is separate to speed settings for mouse pointer
On my X1 Carbon 6th, this helped but not much. I put up with a stiff trackpoint for couple years (that's how I depend on one :)), until it hit me! Sticking a folded piece of paper (or similar) into the base of the eraser lifts it up and makes it feel smooth as butter! Problem solved! I would give myself a Nobel prize for discovering this if I could!
I'm also on an X1 Carbon 6th gen! I will try this out. Thanks much.
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S3 was technically not supported in 11th Gen Intel Core, but seemed to mostly work anyway. S3 is also not technically supported in 12th Gen Intel Core, and it seems to mostly not work at the moment, and it is unclear if that will change. However, s0ix continues to improve substantially in recent kernels, to the point where there doesn't seem to be a major standby battery life advantage to s3 anymore (on 11th Gen).
I can't edit my comment anymore, but I have been informed that with recent firmware, s3 does seem to still work on 12th Gen Intel Core.
Great to hear, thanks!
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I still haven't been able to get suspend to work on my high-spec last-gen Framework, despite following all the troubleshooting and disjointed recommendations in the forum because the company won't just publish fixes for common problems directly. Suspend will sap 30% of my energy by morning, even in "deep" sleep, and the computer won't wake properly. The trackpad will work intermittently or really fast after sleeping.…
The consolidated steps in our setup guides on Ubuntu 22.04 and Fedora 36 should result in good standby behavior on 11th Gen Intel: https://guides.frame.work/c/Framework_Laptop#Section_How-to Digging into the community forum should only be needed if you are using a different distro or if you want to micro-optimize beyond what is in the guides.
I still am unable to get resume from deep sleep to be less than 12-15 seconds. I dug the forums, contacted support, did all the things, but nothing works. If I go to s2idle it is instant, but that takes way too much battery.
Even with deep sleep the battery life feels very short. I haven't done formal tests, but I also have a macbook for work, and the difference is quite noticeable. I very often come to open the framework after a few hours of sleep and it just ran itself out of battery. This never happens with the macbook.
Don't get me wrong, I love the framework, and I love that it's "open", and fixable - so I'm willing to live with that. But just comparing it to another laptop, I'm not sure I'd give it 10 out of 10.
(I run archlinux on framework w/ 11th gen i7)
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I run at 2x scaling and then set the text scaling factor to .85, so the effective text scaling becomes 1.7, and I avoid the issues with non-integer scaling in Wayland.
Text scaling via tweaks tool? That setting though is not respected by all apps though right? What happens if you connect an external display?
Yes, using the tweak tool. I believe there were also a few apps I had to tweak separately, like setting the default zoom level in Firefox. As for external displays, I don't generally connect my laptop to one, since my displays are connected to the desktop PC that I also own (which I run at 150% scaling in X11 mode so that fractional scaling actually looks good).
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#638I recently bought a framework laptop for a daily driver when I'm not on my desktop. For context I was running NixOS on an old 2014 macbook air, and I work on the glasgow haskell compiler in my day job so I do a lot of CPU heavy tasks. I've got to say, as long as these things are being produced I'll never go back. They are just too good and I cannot recommend them highly enough. One of the things that didn't occur to…
This is interesting: over the last several months, a friend has been running NixOS on a Framework and has been told by Framework employees that they can’t help him with Linux kernel issues because he’s using an unsupported OS and he’s also had lots of complaints about battery life and power management. I love the idea of the Framework, but it seems to suffer from all the issues that made me switch to MacBooks in the…
I don't get why the Apple wins? You'd have plenty of issues on a MacBook running an unsupported OS.
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This is so amazing. If I had a 10th or 11th gen i7 laptop, no way I'd rush out and buy a new laptop for two or three grand. But a new mainboard for $600? Yeah, that's an annual upgrade train I can get on!
Given that one of their stated targets is sustainability, this sounds like Jevons paradox [0]. This might be averted a bit, though, if you reuse the old mainboards for things like a homeserver. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jevons_paradox
You can also sell them to people who don't need the latest and greatest and are happy to buy a still more than adequate used machine part
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This is why most people just buy a MacBook: it should not be necessary for the user to read, do, or configure _anything_ to make suspend mode work properly and not drain 30% of your battery overnight.
My MacBook hasn't been suspending itself properly for ages. Love it when my bluetooth headset decides to connect to my MacBook that's been closed and unplugged for 3 hours. Not that Windows is any better.
My work-issued X1 Carbon with Windows 10 came with busted sleep out of the box. So yes, Windows is no better.