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Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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Post by hunter2_ »

gilbetron wrote: post #584
radarsat1 wrote: post #502

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> Diversity is good, but being ____ is bad. Can you fill in the blank? I actually have no idea what you are referring to here.

As an example from my son, a 13 year old white kid, gave me is that if you have one of the "diversity cards" (minority, LGBQT+, female sometimes, or some other thing) than you get to joke and talk in a way than those that don't have such a card. So his friends that are gay or black or indian or disabled are able to tease each other about it and have more liberty to use terms that my son is not allowed to. The gay kid…

I'm curious how white (as a percentage) the school is, as I could imagine a correlation with the extent/intensity of this experience. If white kids are enough of a majority, that alone probably offsets the effect somewhat, but where white is also a local minority, perhaps the collective privilege starts to get so cloudy that the notion of "punching up/down" starts to fall apart. And substitute "straight white male" as needed, of course, although I've refrained above in order to use the words "majority/minority" in simple terms.

Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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Post by cdkmoose »

I don't think we have anything going on right now that we haven't had in the past. global health issues, national and global financial issues, war, threats of terrorism,... have all existed the past. What we have now is a world of social media that amplifies the issues, often negatively, to the point of overwhelming psychological impact. Social media is what is pushing us over the edge.

Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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Post by theclansman »

roland35 wrote: post #572
throwaway787544 wrote: post #508

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It's not the only source of the problem, but social media is certainly a big one. Back in the day you didn't get rape threats from 50 anonymous accounts, or see pictures of you photoshopped sucking dicks, or feel like even more of a loser because you see in 4K detail how everybody else in class is having more fun outside of school. The internet is a threat and embarrassment and envy machine. You feel like you're cons…

The internet was certainly a lot lower stakes and fun in the 90s and early 2000s. We had fun taking over the mic and singing karaoke in Yahoo chatrooms, watching albino black sheep, and playing flash games on kongregator. Even early Facebook was just making funny groups and posting in each other's walls. None of those activities really had me envying anyone else. I remember the first thing that made me feel worthless…

Yeah same, the internet of early 2000s was a super cozy place for me, I remember everyone at first was like "wow it's so amazing how you can be someone else online," now the internet is just a giant window to your life. I remember my mom telling me to never share any info about me online, now everyone has their entire lives uploaded, full name, face picture, phone number, it's all there.

Funny thing is it didn't actually get any less dangerous, people just decided that if everyone did it then there's no problem.

Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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Post by Xelbair »

mFixman wrote: post #392
Xelbair wrote: post #299

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I don't use social media, never did, nor watch TV - and i have the same outlook - because that's what's happening. And i had the same outlook when i was a teen too. Increased divide between rich and poor, lack of middle class in my country, our pension/retirement system has been a joke for 10s of years and we were joking in middle school about it(!). Politicians actively working against country's best interests to li…

Hacker News is social media, and a pretty opinionated one at that.

IF you go that far then you can even call fora a social media sites.

the social media in context were obviously sites akin to twitter, facebook and others.

but alas HN incorrecting strikes again.

Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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Post by mattacular »

gilbetron wrote: post #584
radarsat1 wrote: post #502

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Diversity is good, but being ____ is bad. Can you fill in the blank? I actually have no idea what you are referring to here.

As an example from my son, a 13 year old white kid, gave me is that if you have one of the "diversity cards" (minority, LGBQT+, female sometimes, or some other thing) than you get to joke and talk in a way than those that don't have such a card. So his friends that are gay or black or indian or disabled are able to tease each other about it and have more liberty to use terms that my son is not allowed to. The gay kid…

Your white son is at the bottom of the pack because he can't openly tell bigoted jokes about his peers?

Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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Post by chiefalchemist »

How much and how well were we measuring mental health - teens or otherwise - prior to the last decade or so?

We are what we consume - food or content. That said, imagine being young and looking back 20+ yrs. Tech bubble burst, 9/11, housing bubble burst, an unproductive gov, an unsupportive social infrastructure, etc.

Imagine thinking that past is your future. But sure, let the (do nothing) status quo powers blame social media. How convenient.

Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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Post by 0xBombadilo »

gilbetron wrote: post #584
radarsat1 wrote: post #502

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Diversity is good, but being ____ is bad. Can you fill in the blank? I actually have no idea what you are referring to here.

As an example from my son, a 13 year old white kid, gave me is that if you have one of the "diversity cards" (minority, LGBQT+, female sometimes, or some other thing) than you get to joke and talk in a way than those that don't have such a card. So his friends that are gay or black or indian or disabled are able to tease each other about it and have more liberty to use terms that my son is not allowed to. The gay kid…

>he gets it

What is there to get?

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Post by randomdata »

ejb999 wrote: post #602
randomdata wrote: post #518

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> and unlike a car which will rapidly depreciate in a very short amount of time If you think a car rapidly depreciates, try reselling your degree. You might be in for a shock. Winner: The car. > getting a decent college degree will pay dividends throughout your life in increased earnings power. The data says otherwise. Wages have held stagnant through the rise of post-secondary schooling. You can't both have increase…

>>try reselling your degree. Why would you sell your degree? >>The data says otherwise No it doesn't - stop making stuff up but it sounds like in your case, you are not well suited for college - you should buy a car instead. Uber is always looking for drivers.

> Why would you sell your degree?

The same reason you would sell your car: To try and recoup the cost that you sunk into it, to repurpose and hopefully find productive use for the capital. The trouble you will run into with the degree, with it quickly depreciating to having no remaining value as soon as you drive it off the lot, is that nobody will want to buy it from you. The car will retain at least some value with its much longer depreciation cycle and ultimately scrap value.

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Post by alar44 »

dusing wrote: post #149
alar44 wrote: post #73

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They probably can't articulate a positive vision because humanity is fucked. That's not social media, that's a fact.

Sounds like media has broken you too. I’m sorry, but we are so far from fucked, the glass is more than half full even

Nope, I don't do media. Only going to get worse.
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