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1Password Has Raised $620M

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Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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I used to use 1Password when they just sold the application at a fixed price and I handle all the synchronization between machines. That option is no longer available. I'm one of the users who left because of this.

They used to offer synchronization via Dropbox. Is that still an option?

You can still sync via third party options but the entire desktop apps are view only if you don't pay for a subscription.

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People thinking this is an absurd amount of money are sleeping on how 1Password is quietly positioning itself to become the ground truth storage solution for corporate secret management, across devops and non-technical groups alike. Given Hashicorp's market cap of 11B, and 1Password's narrative on how to become even more central to corporate use cases by being the storage layer for Vault deployments, it's a very reas…

Personally, I found SecretServer to be a better system of secrets management than 1Password, especially with regard to sharing and organizing secrets.

The "all or nothing folder" model that 1Password has has always been very frustrating to me.

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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The Dropbox integration to me became worthless after Dropbox limited the number of devices it would sync to on the free plan. If I can't have my passwords everywhere, then the value delivered drops off a cliff

I don't have the old version installed anymore in order to check, but I thought that 1P only required that you authenticate to Dropbox (since the app just uses the Dropbox API for polling and to pull down changes), not that you turn on syncing. I mean, it's possible Dropbox is so sick they count a signin as a new device, but that would be a grave disappointment

Legacy user here - It does not use the API, it just stores the vault in your Dropbox folder.

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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Microsoft tried this over 20 years ago, even calling it Microsoft Passport and offering it free of charge, and it failed miserably: https://news.microsoft.com/2001/08/12/microsoft-passport-bri...

There's such a thing as being too ahead of the game. 20 years ago is an eternity in tech; there's nothing to say it might not work now.

There is also something to be said about free not actually being free, and anyone with common sense would know that "free" from Microsoft means practically the opposite.

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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Congrats I guess? It's been incredibly disappointing as an end user who has been on a local vault for something like ten years to be told I have to use the cloud offering if I want a version of the 1Password app on Windows that is actually equivalent to the Mac version.

It's just about as annoying as being required to ( pay for the upgrade ) to v7 in the first place because they couldn't ( or wouldn't? ) fix the code signing issue on v6 that broke browser integration a few years ago.

I really like 1Password, honestly, but I wish there was a long term support standalone-license version that just gives me the basics and local/dropbox vault storage. I explicitly do not care to rely on another cloud service, especially so for my vault of private information.

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Pretty typical for people here to be zoomed-in on the b2c side of a business because that's what they use, and fail to see the b2b side, the underwater mass of the iceberg.

I think it's a little weird. I have used 1password at two jobs, and thought it was great, so I bought it for myself. They want money to sync my passwords between my Windows desktop and my iPhone. Seems reasonable to me. I program computers for a living and people pay me. I guess there was a free self-hosted type thing at one point in the past? That was before I ever heard of the product, so I'm not that upset that it…

> They want money to sync my passwords between my Windows desktop and my iPhone. Seems reasonable to me.

Money for service is fine, but this is a long term thing, and I'm not going to pay $180 per 5 years to keep 100KB in sync. And the software doesn't justify that price either.

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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People thinking this is an absurd amount of money are sleeping on how 1Password is quietly positioning itself to become the ground truth storage solution for corporate secret management, across devops and non-technical groups alike. Given Hashicorp's market cap of 11B, and 1Password's narrative on how to become even more central to corporate use cases by being the storage layer for Vault deployments, it's a very reas…

Pretty typical for people here to be zoomed-in on the b2c side of a business because that's what they use, and fail to see the b2b side, the underwater mass of the iceberg.

True but if anyone could even casually be aware of and use terms like b2c and b2b it’s people on this forum right.

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post #295

People thinking this is an absurd amount of money are sleeping on how 1Password is quietly positioning itself to become the ground truth storage solution for corporate secret management, across devops and non-technical groups alike. Given Hashicorp's market cap of 11B, and 1Password's narrative on how to become even more central to corporate use cases by being the storage layer for Vault deployments, it's a very reas…

> 1Password is quietly positioning itself to become the ground truth storage solution for corporate secret management I think it is the exact opposite. They saw what Dashlane did with a few million bucks and some radio/TV ads and want to throw the same sort of gasoline on the fire. I expect they will have their own VPN, browser, credit monitoring, etc. tie in before they have real enterprise features. They don't have…

Championing Lastpass, which is a fundamentally broken product in so so many aspects, kind of brings the rest of your comment into question.

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They will probably go Dropbox route. Dropbox used to be an excellent file sync cloud service with a robust support on many platforms. They did just one thing and did it well. Now Dropbox is positioning themselves as business-team-collaboration-streamlining-platform for everything whose software is balancing between poorly programmed malware and useless enterprise bloatware.

This makes me think that the real problem here is vendor lock in. If users didn't feel such a reluctance to switch between services then there wouldn't be such an incentive to bloat existing services rather than just building it somewhere else.

Is there a real lock-in in case of 1Password though? I like their UX and integrations, but looks like it is easy to export and move my data to other products if required.

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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> 1Password is quietly positioning itself to become the ground truth storage solution for corporate secret management I think it is the exact opposite. They saw what Dashlane did with a few million bucks and some radio/TV ads and want to throw the same sort of gasoline on the fire. I expect they will have their own VPN, browser, credit monitoring, etc. tie in before they have real enterprise features. They don't have…

your opinion that it's more clunky than lastpass is really interesting to me. It runs completely counter to 99.9% of comments I've seen on HN. Personally, I have no experience with lastpass. Just wanted to point out this anomaly.

FWIW, I have set up many, many non-technical users on an enterprise 1Password account. To those who haven't used a password manager there is a really big learning curve and I've seen tons of struggling.

I think a lot of it is the separate "vaults" concept can be easy to fuck up. I've had multiple instances where users have accidentally saved individual credentials in a shared vault because they didn't realize they weren't saving to their private vault.

Perhaps it's just the enterprise use cases that can confuse people, I'm guessing if you're just using it as 1 person with a single private vault there are fewer issues.

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