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Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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I don't have any hard numbers as I don't think we measure children suicide very closely here in Argentina, but we had one of the longest lockdowns with remote learning and it seems to be children did ok. I posit existential dread and deaths of dispair, the modern anomie and so on, have something to do with advanced economic development.

Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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I never thought I’d be the victim of this pandemic but consider myself a victim now. My mental health has deteriorated to a point where it’s difficult to juggle work and family responsibilities. I put family first and work second. But the people I work with don’t know or care that I can’t work on something because I’m home stuck taking care of family trapped in quarantine hell. When I do tell them some change their t…

You need to start seeing yourself as a survivor of all this even if you're not over it yet. I was bummed the fuck out when I got covid but the truth is made it out ok and circa 50 million people didn't, that's a memento mori if there is one.

Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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The research paper[1] in the Lancet from Feb. 2020, on the psychological effects of quarantine predicted this. I think while the first quarantine / lock-down could not be avoided, the current situation could be avoided if we were able to battle the misinformation and reach 90% vaccination in every country. This pandemic is more severe than it has to be because it's also a mental health crisis. The people engaging in…

As much as I hate anti vaxxers, global vaccination is simply not possible in any ammount of time that would have stopped the pandemic. It will be a routine vaccine worldwide only after the virus went endemic anyway.

Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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I'll join the chorus of the other sibling commenters here by expressing skepticism that any medication will at all help with anything. Psychiatric medication often simply numbs your brain so it stops being worried about things that legitimately and truly torment it. It reduces your sensitivity, it knocks off your normal brain chemicals balance, and it turns you into a robot. I've had a family member go through this a…

You can't claim to be pro-science and then false-ly claim that psychiatric medication does nothing. Depression and ADHD are _extremely_ treatable through medication, just as examples. There are many studies around this topic, it is way more treatable than certain physical conditions. "Knocks off your normal brain chemicals" have you considered that some people's normal brain chemicals are not set up normally? Would y…

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Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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No, this is what you said: > Psychiatric medication often simply numbs your brain so it stops being worried about things that legitimately and truly torment it. It reduces your sensitivity, it knocks off your normal brain chemicals balance, and it turns you into a robot. I've had a family member go through this a long time ago. It was soul-crushing watching them when I visited. They were almost turned to vegetables w…

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Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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I said what I observed and it goes without saying that I haven't seen everything. And you... are only seeing what you want and need to argue with someone. I'm not your enemy here, get off my back already.

No, this is what you said: > Psychiatric medication often simply numbs your brain so it stops being worried about things that legitimately and truly torment it. It reduces your sensitivity, it knocks off your normal brain chemicals balance, and it turns you into a robot. I've had a family member go through this a long time ago. It was soul-crushing watching them when I visited. They were almost turned to vegetables w…

Personal attacks like what you posted here are totally unacceptable on HN. You did it many other places in this thread as well:

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We ban accounts that do this. I'm not going to ban you right now, because I didn't see it elsewhere in your recent comments (other than https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29755850, which was also unduly personal). But please review the site guidelines and make sure never to post like this to HN, so we don't have to ban you in the future.

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Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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I'll join the chorus of the other sibling commenters here by expressing skepticism that any medication will at all help with anything. Psychiatric medication often simply numbs your brain so it stops being worried about things that legitimately and truly torment it. It reduces your sensitivity, it knocks off your normal brain chemicals balance, and it turns you into a robot. I've had a family member go through this a…

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29859909.

Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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I am not arguing with the desired outcome. But what I've seen more often than not is that people get addicted to the pills and never do stand on their own feet again. And I agree with your second paragraph completely. I am sick of society pretending that people are "sick". They are not. They are responding naturally to an increasingly hostile world.

I'm sick of people pretending that they know more about brain chemistry and human behavior than the thousands of professionals and the decades of research devoted to the topic, but here we are with your dismissive posts. Some people eventually get off the medications. Some can't function without them. Your attitude is akin to being upset because once a paraplegic is in a wheelchair that they never just get up and try…

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Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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The stay at home orders worked because while the government couldn't "lockdown" individual citizens, they could lockdown just about everything else. During that initial period I stayed at home for most of the 2 weeks. Sure I could leave at any time but where would I go? The stores are closed, the gyms are closed, all public places are closed. I went out a few times to drive on the empty roads but the only reason I we…

Yes, commercial social venues were closed - bars and restaurants. If I were still in my 20's and living the city life I might see this as the majority of the world but it's not. You could still visit friends and family, public parks, or even have private parties. And since you weren't being physically pulled into work, you could visit distant friends/family or even go on vacation and stay in a hotel. I'm not saying y…

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