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President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by throwaway0a5e »

sschueller wrote: post #248
Bayesian_bro wrote: post #215

This is just an example of the different ethics between China and America. America is very deontological in terms of FREEDOM. We love freedom above everything else. China is very consequentialist, they care about prosperity and success over everything else. I'm a pretty red blooded American (I drive a black smoke diesel truck and have enough firearms and ammo to make it pretty far in the apocalypse). I wonder what et…

I would compare Tiananmen Square with the Tulsa race massacre. How many Americans don't know about it? The time I spend in the US I had the feeling that you have more of a pseudo freedom than actual freedom. Everyone keeps saying how free they are and how great their country is yet you can't even drink an alcoholic beverage on the street without getting arrested. You go to a town festival and the people who want to d…

It varies a lot by where you live and how much premium you personally care about following the letter of the law.

I think HN tends to assume nobody has any freedom because most of HN lives in "nice" suburbs or "nice" parts of cities where law enforcement is being used in a backhand manner to enforce conformity and also comes from a life where obeying basically all the laws basically all the time is considered default behavior. The lower classes are far, far free-er on a day to day basis than HN is. Nobody cares if you smoke weed on your porch in any neighborhood where a Ford E350 is a more common driveway adornment than a Mercedes E350. I walk my dog beer in hand two days a week. Kids ride dirt bikes on the street. The section 8 people play loud music in languages I don't speak. Nobody gets hassled by the powers that be, as far as I can tell. And this isn't some rural area in a small government red state, it's working class neighborhood in a blue state.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by gkop »

stickfigure wrote: post #619
gkop wrote: post #551

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Public universities make their tuition money on the out-of-state and foreign students, so your denominator here is an order of magnitude too big. Every marginal out-of-state or foreign student lost, is one or more in-state students whose tuition cannot be subsidized.

200 out of 3500 is still not enough to care.

Prices are discovered on the margin, I wouldn’t be so sure. I believe university administrators do care, anyhow.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by widespace_ »

Zenbit_UX wrote: post #442
ch4s3 wrote: post #424

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They were run over by tanks, and the PRC has made it illegal to even mention the event. Most nation states allow citizens to talk about their own history good and bad.

Run over by tanks doesn't quite cover the brutality of that night. The tanks repeatedly drove over and then reversed over the same bodies until they were pulp on the streets. What happened that night was ni unspeakable, yet we must speak of it or we risk it being forgotten in history.

Could you give me a source for "Run over and the reversed". I'd be interested in reading about it.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by vaxman »

yholio wrote: post #198

It's a very weak response from Purdue. Zhihao Kong was bullied and followed around on campus for commemorating the victims of the Tiananmen masacre. He was called a CIA agent by fellow Purdue students and was reported to the Chinese state, who attempted to silence him by forcefully leaning on his family in Hong Kong. The identities of the bullies is well known and the extent of abuse is borderline criminal. There sho…

What is the end game in allowing PROC nationals into American universities?

Even without a kinetic confrontation, current trends indicate PROC will dominate the world economy, ocean navigation, the African and part of South American continents, near Earth orbit and the Moon because of technology they've already stolen, downloaded, misappropriated and bought from the West --and they're known to be creating bioweapons that kill only non-Chinese people while operating concentration camps that harvest organs, rape and murder millions of racial minorities!

Let's see Purdue prove they are not feckless by leveraging this to terminate Chinese investments and expel all members and family members of the CCP that refuse to surrender their Chinese citizenship, become naturalized Americans and (civilly) agree to lifelong warrantless monitoring of their loyalty to America.

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Post by kube-system »

jaywalk wrote: post #196
tapoxi wrote: post #109

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This website is an independent publication about Purdue, not Purdue itself. If you're small and running ads, I'm pretty sure you don't want to risk dealing with the significant legal pitfalls of GDPR. They EU isn't your audience, and lawyers that confirm you're in compliance (or not) are expensive.

If you're an explicitly US website with no operations abroad, you shouldn't even give the GDPR a second thought. And if that's the case and you also have no operations in California, you should give the CCPA the same treatment.

I am not sure about Purdue and their affiliation with their student newspaper, but many US universities have operations abroad to some extent, like a recruiting office or something.

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Post by quantum_solanum »

catlikesshrimp wrote: post #594
rkk3 wrote: post #507

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And those are all things the US, the UK and most western government's have done & will do again.

They aren't doing it right now. China, on the other hand, just bashed Hong Kong liberties, and to my horror, media already forgot about that. And when you get to name a country that doesn't respect human rights, that still doesn't justify you to do the same

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Post by guipsp »

zepto wrote: post #348
guipsp wrote: post #304

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Quick google search: https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/234...

Ahh, so in other words complete bulkshit, That bill has nothing to do with preventing teaching about Tulsa.

It does, for example, the provision regarding >(B) the United States is a fundamentally racist country; Could be interpreted as preventing proper discussion about what caused the Tulsa massacre

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Post by kube-system »

pc86 wrote: post #53
Miner49er wrote: post #48

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What makes you day they are violating readers' privacy rights? It's a not-for-profit student newspaper, they probably just don't want to risk GDPR fines. Or they don't expect readers from Europe.

Unless Purdue plans on opening a campus within the EU, they don't have to pay any of them. Not much of a risk, right?

I have no clue about Purdue, but many large universities with significant numbers of international students have things like recruiting offices abroad, etc.

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Post by ch4s3 »

rkk3 wrote: post #541
ch4s3 wrote: post #424

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They were run over by tanks, and the PRC has made it illegal to even mention the event. Most nation states allow citizens to talk about their own history good and bad.

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The work "likely" is doing a LOT of work there. Contemporaneous examples in the GDU, Czechoslovakia, and other form Soviet satellites transitioned to democracies in a more or less bloodless fashion.
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