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Re: Web3? I have my DAOts

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Post by Whike »

Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #30
serverholic wrote: post #5

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"Sign-In with Ethereum" will be huge. I purposefully avoid "Sign-in with Google" because putting too much power in a centralized authority terrifies me. I'd much rather have the convenience of "Sign-In with X" but backed by something I have control over.

What's the recovery if your private Ethereum key gets deleted, or worse, stolen? If you're signing in via some other 3rd party, you can change your password. I'm just trying to think of how "Sign in with Ethereum" would work if you're trying to get your technophobic grandma that clicks on phishing links and responds to the County Password Inspectors [0] when they call to use it. [0] https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/…

Visit www.prudentrecovery.com they offer recovery services for phrases and lost bitcoin and ETH

Re: Web3? I have my DAOts

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Post by iskander »

brandonmenc wrote: post #600
iskander wrote: post #586

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...or a wallet to wallet transfer of USDC...

How much time does a transfer like that take for tens of thousands of dollars Asking because I don't know, and because I suspect it takes longer than I'd like if I'm trying to get my payment in first to secure the item (like I have had to do when buying used cars from private parties.)

It depends on which chain you're using but somewhere between a few seconds (on Avalanche, Solana, and many other newer chains) and an hour (on Bitcoin, which is in my experience really not useful for anything).

Re: Web3? I have my DAOts

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Post by ssss11 »

captn3m0 wrote: post #536
ssss11 wrote: post #394

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The internet is not decentralised name one application or website which does not require a server in the middle between two clients. Edit: but I agree there are already ways Web3 things can be done, and decentralization can be done without blockchain - the question I think is whether this impressive engineering is better than the existing ways

BitTorrent? BGP? SMTP?

For BitTorrent isn’t there a tracker server which establishes your connection to the swarm?

BGP - as in for routers? I’m talking end user applications

SMTP - needs a server I believe, in any case there may be a way to craft and send emails on the cli but end users aren’t using that

Re: Web3? I have my DAOts

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Post by captn3m0 »

ssss11 wrote: post #633
captn3m0 wrote: post #536

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BitTorrent? BGP? SMTP?

For BitTorrent isn’t there a tracker server which establishes your connection to the swarm? BGP - as in for routers? I’m talking end user applications SMTP - needs a server I believe, in any case there may be a way to craft and send emails on the cli but end users aren’t using that

DHT doesn't use trackers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainline_DHT

What's true for SMTP also holds for BTC etc. Most users are just handing custody to exchanges, so crypto isn't really decentralized either.

Re: Web3? I have my DAOts

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Post by chpmrc »

rideontime wrote: post #550
chpmrc wrote: post #314

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The same can very well happen in the real world. I see an artwork online, upload it to my portfolio and claim it's mine. There are then many ways one can prove they are the original author and minting an NFT is just an easier one (assuming the claim doesn't get invalidated off chain). Otherwise it's like dismissing NFTs and not minting your own but then getting upset someone did it on your behalf. You can't have it b…

> You can't have it both ways. Sure I can. I created the art, I own the copyright to it. If I choose not to sell prints of a piece, that doesn't give others the right to do so. Why would NFTs be any different? And yes, somebody could copy my art and sell it on RedBubble. The difference is that nobody's claiming that a RedBubble shop is a definite proof of provenance. (But why not? "First RedBubble store" has the same…

> I own the copyright to it

Copyright is only valid in specific (sometimes geographically limited) legal frameworks and even then there are many nuances to take into account.

NFTs are just an easier way to establish ownership within the digital world, regardless of the chain (because of the timestamp I mentioned, since it can obviously be compared across chains).

> nobody's claiming that a RedBubble shop is a definite proof of provenance

RedBubble, being centralized, cannot be trusted to be a viable proof of provenance due to the possibility of corruption.

NFTs don't give anyone any right, they just make it easier to establish (and automate the process of verifying) ownership of a digital piece of content. They are not a replacement for copyright. Practically speaking you have two choices: you only claim copyright on some content, get mad when someone mints an NFT of it, try to identify and sue them (good luck with that) and waste time and money OR you mint an NFT as soon as you decide to publish your work.

There is absolutely no incentive in choosing the first option and if you do, well, that's on you.

Re: Web3? I have my DAOts

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Post by ThomPete »

lottin wrote: post #607
ThomPete wrote: post #602

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No it's not. You are assuming that the entry on the ledger is a person it's not. It's a thing. I can steal all sorts of things from you in real life and if you don't know I stole them, then they will be gone forever. You are still not understanding what is meant by enforcing.

> I can steal all sorts of things from you in real life and if you don't know I stole them, then they will be gone forever. You seem unable to form coherent ideas.

So ad hominem is your argument? Got it.
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