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Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by the_lonely_road »

tmp_anon_22 wrote: post #337
tofuahdude wrote: post #301

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"This is all garbage" followed by "Oh, it happened to me or my loved ones and now it's not garbage" is such a classic pattern across so many controversial topics. I wonder how we can be more open minded as a society while still keeping enough skepticism to not accept literal garbage.

Reminds me of all the politicians who were anti-LGBT until one of their kids came out and then they miraculously flip flop.

It works I’m reverse as well. The owner of a socialist magazine just recently fired most of his staff for trying to unionize. He wrote a bunch of articles purporting to support all these ideals but the moment those ideals threatened his power he shut it down.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by tailius »

neolog wrote: post #466
zdragnar wrote: post #382

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Free speech, separation of church and state has nothing to do with it. Not wanting to be associated with rape, child and revenge porn (variations on non-consent) is all it is. User submitted content is so much harder to verify facts about (consent in particular) and as long as the user submitted content is sexual in nature, it is legal plutonium.

A lot of the attacks against amateur porn and sex work are by religious groups masking their actual motive by focusing on consent verification. Verification raises the barrier and makes performers much more vulnerable since their legal identities are attached to their work. https://newrepublic.com/article/160488/nick-kristof-holy-war...

Yep. It's pure FUD used to moralize and control behavior of consenting adults. It's one step removed from criminalizing homosexuality and abortions.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by TotempaaltJ »

LandR wrote: post #585
DantesKite wrote: post #540

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Do you think prostitution should be legal?

I think this is a tough one, and I'm not sure where I stand on this. On the one hand I don't think the government should be able to tell you what you can and can't do with your body. If you want to sell your body, you should be able to. But on the other hand, if you legalise it then you open the door to people being exploited, and I'm aware that people are exploited now in prostitution, obviously, but I feel if it's…

> I feel if it's legal it might be harder to punish those that do.

Or it could be easier because it becomes regulated and controlled?

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by nixass »

LandR wrote: post #585
DantesKite wrote: post #540

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Do you think prostitution should be legal?

I think this is a tough one, and I'm not sure where I stand on this. On the one hand I don't think the government should be able to tell you what you can and can't do with your body. If you want to sell your body, you should be able to. But on the other hand, if you legalise it then you open the door to people being exploited, and I'm aware that people are exploited now in prostitution, obviously, but I feel if it's…

How do you think keeping it illegal keeps sex workers more safe?

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by posguy »

nickff wrote: post #524
actually_a_dog wrote: post #519

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> If PH is having trouble processing any form of credit card, a smaller company will have no chance at all. We're seeing a sterilization of legitimate porn on the internet, done by legitimate tax paying western companies. It'll be left to whoever can operate beyond those constraints, which is kind of a sad state of affairs for free speech, separation of church and state, and policing in general. Welcome to the "free(…

Well, there may not be laws against it, but the government doesn't always play by the rules: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Choke_Point

The chokepoint isn't the government in this case, but rather the major card brands (Visa, MasterCard, American Express). In the US, these brands have embedded morality clauses that prohibit these payments from riding their rails[1].

That being said, most US debit networks (Star, Pulse, Coop, etc) don't have these restrictions. It does damage the user experience to limit your card acceptance to most debit cards.

1 - https://thehill.com/policy/technology/548279-mastercard-upda...

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by millbraebart »

taylodl wrote: post #257

Sadly I know girls who are using OnlyFans to keep a roof over their heads and stay out of abusive relationships. Whether we like what they're doing to make money OnlyFans was providing them a much-needed revenue stream. Now that's being taken away from them by the morality police who won't be affected by the consequences of their own decisions.

It’s up to them how they make money, but framing it as a “survival” tactic is frankly pathetic. Admit it is easy money as your own boss, but don’t try to play victim at the same time.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by ayngg »

andy_ppp wrote: post #568

Does anyone else here feel the Onlyfans phenomenon is just exploiting sad lonely men who’d be better off leaving the house, doing some exercise and trying to eat healthier and build their IRL social networks? This whole cam-girls making a fortune this way seems somehow more dishonest than normal porn to me, maybe because it’s about these guys (who can never have relationships with these women) building a personal and…

It is at the intersection of pornography and parasocial online relationships (seen in Youtube, Twitch and other influencers), both extremely profitable. Looking at some of the revenue breakdowns the fees to message are just as significant as subscription costs.

On average I don't think it is particularly healthy to replace real social/ sexual relationships with parasocial ones and I think that is the primary use for these services. For the most part they lack real meaningful intimacy which is a significant benefit that real relationships provide. I don't think many who maintain healthy social and romantic relationships are the majority of users of the platform.

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Post by threeseed »

zokula wrote: post #516
smt88 wrote: post #341

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I totally agree that OnlyFans is a legitimate and ethical site, but let's not kid ourselves about PornHub. It was mostly pirated content with a lot of videos of people being harmed.

Nobody was being harmed on Pornhub. Don't feed the lying anti-sex work media.

There were many examples of voyeur, creepshot, revenge and ex-partner videos.

None of which had the consent of all parties involved.

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