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Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by raxxorrax »

k12sosse wrote: post #422
ryan29 wrote: post #389

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I need a local account. I set up my PC with multiple profiles. I start with a local admin account and then I add Microsoft accounts for my day-to-day work. I have one profile logged in to my personal Microsoft account. Another is logged in to an Office 365 account that belongs to someone I do work for. Etc.. Why is MS encouraging people to have one giant admin account with a work or school account connected? That's s…

Windows professional for professionals. Windows home for grandparents. Always has been this way. I'm ok with that. The tiers of OS have different requirements and features. Expected.

Why would you be ok with that and don't demand choice? Would you give me 10$ for nothing? Because nothing is what you get in return. Pretty unstable business position.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by Savageman »

IshKebab wrote: post #488
dean177 wrote: post #227

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- Windows have rounded corners - Teams integrated into Windows - A new widgets fly out for weather, news, etc. (appears this will require you login with a Microsoft Account) - A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup No thank you

You forgot: moved the most clicked button away from the easiest place to click it.

I think I like the centering, but I also would like to keep the Windows button on the edge...

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by noobermin »

naikrovek wrote: post #582
noobermin wrote: post #542

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1 is widely broken then by Win11 not supporting 32 bit machines anymore.

uhh... 64-bit hardware can run 32-bit software just fine. that old software will run fine and so will any connected hardware.

Imagine you have a 32 bit machine that drives something else with a controller board soldered on to the motherboard. Will it be able to run windows 11?

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by nly »

jerf wrote: post #140
hackinthebochs wrote: post #56

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With huge monitors becoming the norm, having important click targets aligned to corners makes little sense.

Fitt's Law says that is exactly backwards. It is when your monitors are largest that you need the largest click targets. It's when things were 640x480 that small targets were easiest to hit.

Resolution has nothing to do with physical size, because modern higher resolution screens typically have higher dpi

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by citysurrounded »

satysin wrote: post #94

So to summerize what they have announced (so far) - * A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? * A new start menu design * Windows have rounded corners * Some built in apps such as the Xbox app and Microsoft Store have been redesigned (Xbox Game Pass and xCloud built into the Xbox app) * New touch keyboard (SwiftKey?) with improved…

The only things I wanted on this list and honestly could've lived without are DirectX improvements and 40% smaller windows updates, lol

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by ksec »

xxpor wrote: post #310
satysin wrote: post #94

So to summerize what they have announced (so far) - * A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? * A new start menu design * Windows have rounded corners * Some built in apps such as the Xbox app and Microsoft Store have been redesigned (Xbox Game Pass and xCloud built into the Xbox app) * New touch keyboard (SwiftKey?) with improved…

>40% smaller Windows Updates Was there anything about faster updates? Why does the Windows Update service take 50%+ of my CPU and multiple minutes to figure out if there's any updates available for me? I get Windows doesn't have a package manager, but given yum and deb can figure out the answer in seconds... there has to be some way to improve that.

>Was there anything about faster updates?....

That is the thing. Modern days update are slow down because we spend more time computing the difference of update, check sum and other things and very little at transferring.

We now have very decent CDN ( or at least they should it really is table stake in 2021 for Microsoft ) and bandwidth should be limited by last mile.

Smaller Update seems like a marketing point they want to make. I want faster update in total time.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by thirdsun »

sorenjan wrote: post #247
satysin wrote: post #94

So to summerize what they have announced (so far) - * A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? * A new start menu design * Windows have rounded corners * Some built in apps such as the Xbox app and Microsoft Store have been redesigned (Xbox Game Pass and xCloud built into the Xbox app) * New touch keyboard (SwiftKey?) with improved…

> A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? This is confirmed on the Windows 11 specification site: > Alignment to the bottom of the screen is the only location allowed. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifica...

Strange decision. It doesn't even seem like a design challenge to have the task bar on any side of the screen. I can't see any reason for such an easily avoidable limitation.

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Post by ksec »

actuator wrote: post #628
askonomm wrote: post #595

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Alright. So if Netflix wants their app to be hosted and indexed by the App Store, Apple should just provide the costs related to that because of charity? The bandwidth alone I imagine carries a pretty hefty price for an app like Netflix. By your logic, this should all be given free - which actually is negative profit for Apple .. why? Would you create an App Store, dedicate resources on moderation and app curation, a…

> The bandwidth alone I imagine carries a pretty hefty price for an app like Netflix. Apple doesn't pay for Netflix's server costs. They just host the app, there are ways to mitigate the cost of hosting the app as the other reply also mentions. > Would you create an App Store, dedicate resources on moderation and app curation, as well as infrastructure, and then just give it away free? Apple is not doing Netlfix any…

Thank You for your claim explanation without any rage.

>If they can bundle the cost of their Maps effort with iPhone.....

And just want to add. Apple currently put around ~$3B / year for all of their OS, iCloud, Siri and Map development which are already included in the Net Margin calculation.

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Post by IshKebab »

noobermin wrote: post #548
IshKebab wrote: post #490

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Yeah and you can only do that if you have student-level free time. I used Linux as a student. I could keep it mostly working. Now I have a job and children and I like my laptop to last longer than 2 hours and connect to WiFi reliably.

My computer is has been on the wifi for the last 5 days it's been on?

Good for you. I'm not saying that WiFi etc. never work on Linux. Just that they often don't work, have annoying bugs or require complicated workarounds.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by Aerroon »

zeusk wrote: post #578
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> As far as I could tell, creating a user account just locally was not possible, you had to have an online account, hooked up with a valid email address. It's usually an option that's hidden away. It's definitely there if you disconnect the computer from the network when you install the OS. Also, if you want the old type display drivers instead of DCH you'd have to do that. Otherwise Windows will automatically downlo…

The whole point of DCH iirc was to decouple the rendering and display engine driver from the User/Control/Config interface. This would basically allow Dell/Hp/Surface to use the same latest Intel/Nvidia/AMD drivers but have their differentiation and config apps updated on their own schedule while the OS takes care of the actual driver components. so that's a feature not a bug.

Yes, and in practice it's a pain that forces/highly encourages you to use the Microsoft Store.
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