Now the NLP researchers can study how influence through language works in the far right groups. This will give a good enough strategy for other social media and knowledge to us as a society to not fall prey to such traps in the future.
70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers
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Since a "single post" has been provided by someone now, it would be nice to see you give them the decency and acknowledge it. There are so many comments here, and they all read in the same way, "well, what about..." and "show me proof" — only for someone to actually go and spend the time to respond, and then be ignored quietly. Discussions here (political ones) feel so childish, I wish we'd be better as a community o…
Personally, when I discuss politics online I don't expect the other person to acknowledge anything. My audience is all the people on the fence lurking and reading and forming opinions on the topic.
Yes. In many cases, the only "winning" move is to say what you have to say and then step back.
You can't usually "win" the argument, just your own time.
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A saying from a nation with collective psychological trauma of over 100 years. No thanks. That's an idiotic saying. The person's comment above you is also idiotic. When Twitter is banning feminist women for saying something as so patently obvious as, "Men are not women." [1] then don't be surprised when people choose to make accounts at any available social media service because 1) people aren't creating blogs that g…
Twitter had a policy against misgendering and had locked her out of her account several times before banning her. If this is something Meghan thinks is worth getting banned over, that's on her. Most people just don't care what pronoun somebody wants to be called, so the non-asshole thing to do is to just use their preferred pronoun.
> so the non-asshole thing to do is to just use their preferred pronoun.
I agree. I completely agree. I myself call the transgender people in my life by their preferred pronoun.
I also find compelling someone's speech by threat of banning them to be disgusting. Especially when there's a block button available. If you don't like what someone's saying, you can literally ignore everything they say.
Herein lies the conundrum for me - for, what seems to be, an increasingly large group of people, its not enough to simply stop interaction with people they don't like, those people have to be removed from the landscape altogether. I just do not see this ending in any positive way.
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There's a surprising amount of insecure code in the wild; and naive engineers who are willingly ignorant in their security practices. I'd assume that Parler's engineers motivations had more to do with politics than providing a secure platform for protecting dissidents under duress. (Or, if we look at the history of a recent major war, the mediocre engineers working for the other side thought they were the good guys.)
"Cool, I found a package for this"
Or how about a system where pretty much the entire thing is built upon packages? Even for the most minute things like left-padding..
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#635It's interesting to me that the demand for Parler was almost exclusively the result of policies enacted by other social media platforms. Perhaps there was merit to the notion that letting groups operate in a contained area of larger platforms would have been favorable to outright bans. This would allow the larger platforms to monitor engagement, control spread, and quietly respond as they desired, no one the wiser. I…
Sounds like you're arguing for more of an approach of placating them, giving them a platform and trying to listen to them as misunderstood victims.
Seems to me like that's exactly what the rest of the country has been doing this whole time. For years everyone went along with the fringe right and placated them. The mainstream media covered Trump closely. Talked to his supporters to try to understand them. The more mainstream Republicans have backed up all the things Trump has done and said until now. Facebook got tons of flack the last 4 years for not silencing them sooner. Now it has escalated to dangerous levels of inciting violence that actually came pass, which has led to a stronger response. But you're arguing for continuing to go along with them? Why should we expect that continuing down the path we've been on for years would reverse the trend of them getting more and more extreme?
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So because the owners claim the platform to be something other than it actually is, it is okay for this person to leak the Parler users' private images and videos?
So, because the owners (a) claim that Parler is a free speech platform when (b) actually it engages in extensive moderation to ensure ideological conformity in their posts, then (c) Parler is more of a propaganda weapon than a free speech platform. That was the point that was being made in the context of a number of erroneous references to Parler being unmoderated. One can debate whether the data leak was ethical, bu…
'Free speech platform' is a meaningless phrase, because it means different things to different people.
Almost anyone would agree that a platform which allows any speech at all is a 'free speech platform' even if they don't agree with allowing certain kinds of speech.
Most people would agree a platform that allows any speech outside of socially accepted exceptions (e.g. threats of violence, slander) is a 'free speech platform'.
But for people who are largely not allowed to share their views (rightly or wrongly) a platform which is heavily moderated for ideological conformity can also be a 'free speech platform' if they agree with the ideology, because they are free to speak all the speech they want to speak and are prevented from doing on other platforms. It's pretty clear that Parler falls into this category.
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A shooting happening in a protest area is not the same as armed protesters attacking the seat of the federal government chanting their intention to murder politicians.
Please don't use the passive voice [0] to intentionally obscure a crime's perpetrator. Antonio Mays Jr. was not killed near a protest by a random passerby. He was murdered by armed "anti-fascist" protestors. They shot him in the face with a rifle. It's on camera. The killers audibly confessed to the murder. See this link [1] for the clips, if you must. The footage is disturbing. [0] https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/c…
That doesn't change the fact that is was an isolated shooting that happened to happen in a protest area. That is not the same as mob formed and mobilized for the explicit and exclusive purpose of murder.
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You still cannot threaten physical violence. This imaginary prospect that 'free speech' includes threats is stupid. And of course any individual still can block you. It is literally the same as Twitter.
> It is literally the same as Twitter. Pretty much. What I find troubling is that despite containing the same cesspool of vile content, Twitter never got booted from Google and Apple App stores, and AWS.
> The same cesspool of vile content
You are troubling if you really find that
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You still cannot threaten physical violence. This imaginary prospect that 'free speech' includes threats is stupid. And of course any individual still can block you. It is literally the same as Twitter.
> It is literally the same as Twitter. Pretty much. What I find troubling is that despite containing the same cesspool of vile content, Twitter never got booted from Google and Apple App stores, and AWS.
Please send me twitter links of people conspiring to commit violence so I can report them.