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GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

juskrey wrote: post #572
snvzz wrote: post #27

There's more serious reasons this file picker is broken. Here's a trivial to reproduce and obvious issue that's been there for several years now: 1. Open a directory that loads slowly (e.g. one with thousands of files on a smb3 mount) 2. While the list is loading, select a file (but do not open it) 3. Wait for the whole list to load Once the list finishes loading, the file on the very top of the list gets automatical…

On nearly every OS I know (now I am on MacOS): 1. System boots up and starts some apps which are creating windows. This may take some time. 2. While all of that loading, I am seeing some of the apps of no use, I am quickly switching to one, capturing focus, and pressing the quit shortcut. 3. Between my reaction and actual button press, some other app loads, and focus is switched to its window. 4. My keypress goes int…

I get this all the time with Safari windows on Macs ever since they changed the new tab view when they switched to location naming rather than big cat.

Hit cmd+new window pops up with search highlighted, start typing after a split second the window pops behind the other and all the key presses are then fed into the previous window.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by josefx »

stelonix wrote: post #493
userbinator wrote: post #191

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To sound like Linus Torvalds, "that's braindead stupid!" I have never looked at the code in question, but it almost sounds like the developers went out of their way to create these ridiculous bugs, because the simplest solution definitely would not have something like that happen: The handler for Enter gets the current selection (which will definitely be the correct one) and opens it. The actual opening can be slow,…

This is an issue with X11 which I don't know exactly where it comes from and what causes it. Yes, it has to do with the async nature of it all and I agree it's stupid and it's a miracle the desktop even works. Over time, I've been wondering if Windows dodges this simply by having syscalls that interface with window procedures while Xorg deals horribly with it by being pure userland. Another issue is, there's no mappi…

> there's no mapping of pid X11 window

There is a standard window property that anyone can set and that any halfway sane UI framework sets. I ran into maybe one that didn't and even then it was five lines of copy/paste code to add it.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

wdobbels wrote: post #605
eitland wrote: post #472

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> And you will also find such examples for MacOSX or Windows. If anyone wonders, here are three from Mac last I used it: - fn took the place of ctrl on the laptop (but not the full keyboard). Unlike on Dell and Lenovo who also has this problem it could not be remapped neither at boot nor in the OS. - CMD - tab forced me to think ahead of time if I want to change to the last application or the last window of the same…

Things that annoy me on mac: - there's no volume mixer (each app having an individual volume slider) - no window snapping (before I bought BetterTouchTool, which includes window snapping, I had windows everywhere and it was just a mess) - column view in Finder is nice, it would be really useful to pick a new "root" folder for the viewer, or to move one directory up from the "root" Things that annoy me on windows: - N…

I use both and really miss the spacebar Quicklook on Windows, I found this 3rd party app that adds it https://github.com/QL-Win/QuickLook and works better than I expected.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by selfhoster11 »

wruza wrote: post #465
kristopolous wrote: post #452

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Instead of fixing old problems that the entire community agrees with wild consensus, they insist on spending time creating new problems. Perhaps we should stop whining and start fixing them. And then if the developers refuse to accept things people have been wanting for well over a decade then we can fork it and simply abandon them like any other archaic unusable thing of the past. We've all asked very politely long…

You can fork code, but neither a development, support nor maintenance process. The truth is that there is no fork, Neo.

If the fork is closer to the final result that most people want, it's a no-brainer that developers, maintainers and the community will follow. There's no incentive to stay behind.

It's worth studying the case of OpenOffice.org and MySQL. Both of these weren't satisfactory to the community for , so the community forked them and did all the high-demand feature implementation on the fork. Now the original projects that were forked from are near-ghost towns.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by vidarh »

jopsen wrote: post #594
mard wrote: post #581

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The lack of typeahead in GtkFileChooser is my biggest annoyance that I've ever come across. Ever since I started using computers nearly 25 years ago I used typeahead to navigate through directories and I can't imagine doing it otherwise. The idea of removing typeahead is anti-human to me, I couldn't adapt even though I really tried to.

Yeah, the first thing I do after installing Linux has always been to replace nautilus with something else. Nautilus is pretty, and for the most part fairly nice. But lacking typeahead just makes it unusable.

Which makes me think the biggest problem with the file selector as described is not that it's flawed, but that it's hard to replace.

One of the thing I loved about the Amiga was that because of how the API was structured, it was easy to replace things like this, as you could patch every API endpoint. As a result, it took very little time before more advanced replacements for the standard file requester appeared. You "just" had to patch (via OS-provided functions) a couple of library calls.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by thedonkeycometh »

It'll do is the main barrier to most software development. As anyone who has wrote software out to be used by common folk, the heretical workarounds often become the norm, and get perpetuated forwards in user manuals. No wonder computers have such a bad rap, most programmers see the UI as a annoyance and spare very little time ensuring the end user has a good experience. Ultimately, if you have a whole OS built by programmers... well, this is why Linux still hasn't took hold on the Desktop.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by bmn__ »

uncledave wrote: post #149
enriquto wrote: post #76

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Even worse is when you know the exact file name that you want to open, and the interface fights against you writing it! For example I want to open /tmp/a.png, but there's thousands of files on /tmp and the cursor disappears while "loading" them, and and some characters of the file name are lost, or typed on different parts of the interface.

That one really really really pissed me off because it’s a task I expect to do tens of times a day. Also it has some serious focus loss issues in that space where you’ll have to tab or click something again. I must have installed a Linux distribution 100 times with the intent of using it as a desktop and lasted less than a day every time. I’ve been doing it since 1998. Literally something that horrible punches me in…

Run `kcmshell5 kwinoptions` or System Settings → section Workspace → item Window Management → subitem Window Behaviour → tab Focus.

You are not allowed to complain about "Linux" when your beef is really about Gnome.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by ognarb »

aidenn0 wrote: post #543
danmur wrote: post #397

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I think that's very much personal preference. I tried KDE a few months ago and I couldn't stick with it; it is slower than Gnome in a lot of ways, it's (to my eyes) much more cluttered, and has lags at annoying places. For example, I tend to hit the windows key and start typing to launch things, but under KDE there's enough lag before the menu opens that it doesn't catch my first few keypresses.

I'm on a 3 year old laptop, and I tried several times to get a keystroke to be dropped after I hit the windows key and I couldn't get it to happen. I use windows-key and start typing to launch things all the time, and after reading your comment at first I thought I might have developed a habit to pause, but nope. I wonder what the difference is. My biggest KDE gripe is that popups from the system-tray disappear if yo…

> My biggest KDE gripe is that popups from the system-tray disappear if you move the cursor outside of them.

This looks like a bug or you changed the default setting, just to be sure in System Setting -> Window Management -> Window Behavior -> is the Window Activation Policy set to click to focus?

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by Timpy »

> Why was there a Windows monopoly? I think it’s a stretch to just blame it on OEM bundling. No, it’s legit because there isn’t anything else.

I agree GNOME-3 is blocked toilet, but Windows 10 is also a blocked toilet. I have a file that I would like to open on my Windows 10 computer "passport.pdf", I hit the winkey and type "passport [enter]" to open the file. Windows launched a Bing search on Edge for the word "passport", but Edge has to go through its welcome dialog because I've never opened it before. This is only one example; all in all using Windows 10 is like taking a hike with a rock in your shoe.

Windows WAS a monopoly because of its usability, but now it's ubiquitous because we're path dependant. Having to use Windows 10 for me is having to walk downstairs to use the bathroom in the middle of the night. I wish I could stay on Windows 7 forever, but I'm very happy with Mint Cinnamon DE for now.

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