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Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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I’m pretty sure that Liquid Death is just water.

Well, your body needs water to survive, so water could be called an energy drink for when you’re dehydrated /s

It's got what plants crave.

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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Yes, there were lawsuits and the courts forced Apple to stop their ridiculous behavior. That is why you can do this right now. Not because of Apple's goodwill, quite the contrary.

The lawsuits were for iOS not MacOS.

Apple's developer program is the same for both.

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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Do you expect to see a box on a shelf of any retail store labeled, “Amphetamine” with a colorful picture of drugs? It’s entirely reasonable for the retail store to tell the vendor to rename the product or else it will be removed from the shelf.

Grand Theft Auto comes to mind... Plague Inc... Drink extreme... Trivia Crack Adventura... Drug Mafia... All of those are ios GAMES.

Drug mafia sounds like something that should fall under this category.. but I don't see how Trivia Crack would unless they are showcasing drugs on their logo like Amphetamine.

I also don't remember plague inc showcasing any substance abuse, but I could be wrong.

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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Apple requires software to be "notarized" (signed by apple) be able to run on newer Macs. Apple also blocks developers they do not like from notarizing apps. See Apple vs Epic. You might be able to bypass the notarization requirement as an end-user, if you have enough technical know-how, but good luck explaining that to your customers. Especially when all the dialogs are calling your software malicious, untrustworthy…

>Apple requires software to be "notarized" This is not exactly true and you know it. For example: >if you have enough technical know-how You right click the app and then click open. >Especially when all the dialogs are calling your software malicious, untrustworthy, etc. Another lie. The dialog says "this is from an unidentified developer" and does not say anything about being malicious or untrustworthy. What is your…

There's no need to be confrontational. Apple themselves say that software must be notarized going forward in Catalina, as GateKeeper will check all apps that are quarantined, which is essentially all apps that you download from the internet. Apple would very much like you to notarize your applications and the workaround you provided is not intended to be a general-purpose solution.

GateKeeper will also flag your app as malicious and having the potential to damage your Mac if Apple revokes your certificate, which they have done in the past by mistake.

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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I mean, on this point I'm actually inclined to think Apple's general policy is reasonable, even if it sucks that Apple is only now adding or enforcing this rule. It doesn't want apps that jokingly call themselves "Crack Cocaine", "Crystal Meth", or "Mango Vape". It doesn't have anything to do with them actually promoting drug use, but it helps normalize illegal drug use in a way, while Apple wants to keep a "family f…

macOS ships with a command line program called "caffeinate" that disables the sleep function of the laptop. With this background knowledge I was immediately able to assume Amphetamine is a more powerful program that provides the same results. With this background in mind I find the name to be clever.

And if someone made yet an even more powerful program called cocaine, that would be okay too, because the name fits so well. right?

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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The name was approved by Apple years ago. The developer built the brand on that name. What changed? Apple's policies (on their whims). If Apple has to come down hard, they should bear the cost of the re-branding at least to measurably communicating widely regarding the rename. It is sad that Apple exercises so much power callously.

I just did some research and it appears that amphetamine used to have a coffee cup logo.

Amphetamine rebranded to showcase it as a pill.

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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I mean, on this point I'm actually inclined to think Apple's general policy is reasonable, even if it sucks that Apple is only now adding or enforcing this rule. It doesn't want apps that jokingly call themselves "Crack Cocaine", "Crystal Meth", or "Mango Vape". It doesn't have anything to do with them actually promoting drug use, but it helps normalize illegal drug use in a way, while Apple wants to keep a "family f…

The author makes the point that amphetamine is a legal drug used to treat actual disorders, and in no way promotes abuse

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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No. Amphetamine is the name of a chemical with both legal medicinal and illegal applications. I might agree with you if the app's name was "Meth" or some other slang term for a stimulant drug associated with illegal use.

Another comment in this thread said the same thing, and someone replied saying "but I take meth to function (desoxyn)".

The quote was "I use methamphetamine (desoxyn) to function!"

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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post #599

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Amphetamine is used for treating narcolepsy and idiopathic hypersomnia, too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcolepsy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiopathic_hypersomnia

Of course. I just used chronic fatigue as one example, those are others. Regardless, my point stands: when the average person thinks of using amphetamines to stay awake, they're thinking primarily of the illegal context, not the prescription one.

> "when the average person thinks of using amphetamines to stay awake, they're thinking primarily of the illegal context, not the prescription one."

Be careful when claiming knowledge of what "everybody" or "the average person" is thinking. You expose your own bias. It can come off as a weird self-own, as if you're saying that you use it that way so you can't conceive of innocent uses

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