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2020 Mac Mini – Putting Apple Silicon M1 To The Test

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Re: 2020 Mac Mini – Putting Apple Silicon M1 To The Test

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Yeah this. Imagine if we had the same hardware but designed for linux, I'd pay a premium for that. Although hardware specific software from Apple is probably a big part of that draw too. I don't think we're ever going to see Linux prioritize a certain hardware and put in the effort to make it integrate as well as macs does.

I don't really get this. I switched to MacOS because it's fundamentally BSD with a nice/ well integrated GUI. Almost all of the good OSS I love is supported nearly perfectly. Perhaps I'm a bit jaded after running into too much bullshit trying to get Linux running well on laptops in the 90s and 00s. Since I made the move I never wax nostalgic for the "Good Ole Days" of fighting for hours to get Wifi working properly.…

I've never used another BSD, but the reasoning for my 'I prefer Linux' complaint could I think equally be said to conclude almost any non-Mac Unix - my primary concern or annoyance is configurability.

Sure, it has a 'nice/well integrated GUI', but I'm not allowed to choose a different one. Good luck configuring the one they give you for different machines without lots of pointing and clicking. (Yes I know about `defaults write`, I tried to maintain a script to configure everything that way and similar for several years, things change every version, and it's a mess even when it works. It's not how they want you to do it, and it shows.)

Re: 2020 Mac Mini – Putting Apple Silicon M1 To The Test

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I got it from Adobe Web site > Mac OS X v10.6.8 or v10.7. Adobe Creative Suite 3, 4, 5, CS5.5, and CS6 applications support Mac OS X v10.8 or v10.9 when installed on Intel-based system They work, maybe, they are not supported though It means that if it doesn't work, Adobe won't provide any support

I wouldn't expect Adobe to support CS6 in 2020 on my 10.9 system either. What matters is whether the software works or not—which it does on Mojave, and on Windows 10.

you are not wrong, but Photoshop 5, released in 1998, works on Windows 10 because Microsoft made it possible

CS6 works officially from XP SP3 (2008) to the end of Windows 8 (2015)

It works unofficially on XP pre SP3 (2001) and on windows 10, almost 20 years later and it's guaranteed to work on the LTSC for another 8 years (last LTSC is from 2018)

CS6 on Mac is supported on systems that span from 2011 (OS X 10.6.8) to 2014 (when Yosemite came out)

On May 2020 Adobe updated the release notes on CS6 saying that "If you are running Microsoft Windows XP with Service Pack 3, Photoshop will run in both 32-bit and 64-bit editions. However, Adobe does not officially support the 64-bit edition and you may run into problems."

So they are still supporting it on Windows XP on their official channels.

Most of the problems with old applications in Windows come from installers using ancient techniques to detect the OS version

Most of recent Adobe software theoretically could also run on older windows versions (8 or 7 for example), but are not supporting old platforms anymore with the new subscription versions and recebtly dropped support for the LTSC versions of Windows 10, so probably keeping the old versions around is a smart move if they work well enough for you

People who bought licenses for old versions should be in their right to use them as long as they can

Which simply is for longer on Windows than on MacOS

Re: 2020 Mac Mini – Putting Apple Silicon M1 To The Test

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From the article's conclusion... "The M1 undisputedly outperforms the core performance of everything Intel has to offer, and battles it with AMD’s new Zen3, winning some, losing some. And in the mobile space in particular, there doesn’t seem to be an equivalent in either ST or MT performance – at least within the same power budgets." This is the first in-depth review validating all the hype. Assuming the user experie…

On the air now. Launched Kerbal Space Program without a problem, loading mods now..

Re: 2020 Mac Mini – Putting Apple Silicon M1 To The Test

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My school had a policy of no chargers at school due to safety regulations (Fires/tripping) so the macbook air made an excellent choice.

Wow! That would drive me batty! It also seems unfair to students who can’t afford the latest-and-greatest laptops and are stuck with laptops with lesser battery life (unless the laptops are all school provided).

This was a private school and the macbooks were school supplied (from your fees of course)

Re: 2020 Mac Mini – Putting Apple Silicon M1 To The Test

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Any word on if Final Cut and Logic X are recompiled for Arm ?

If they are Apple they are Universal apps I believe?

That's the same question being asked - have they been recompiled as universal apps?

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Apple is the kind of company that will choose to slim down the laptop instead of making it 2 day battery life.

I think that's the right call, honestly. I need to recharge my own wetware at least once a day. So there is a nearly guaranteed several hour idle period where I'm not using any technology and where laptops and phones can be recharging too. I don't see much end user value in not taking advantage of that. It's like if you parked your car literally at a gas station every night anyway. Would you really care about a fuel…

I fully concur having the same annoying wetware limitations

Re: 2020 Mac Mini – Putting Apple Silicon M1 To The Test

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Firefox has something like this called containers. The best example is one for facebook, where any call to any facebook servers only works in the facebook container. It has similar setups as well, Work, Home, Commerce, etc.

Not quite the same. I want to set-up and tear-down entire macro groups of windows and tabs while keeping others active. Opening my 'Shopping' profile brings up windows and tabs from where I left off. Same with "Social". When I don't want distractions, I just close those profiles. No notifications, no updates, etc. I like the separation.

I don't use Chrome, so I don't know what Chrome profiles are like. But Firefox also has profiles. Launch it with the -P option to open the profile manager and create additional profiles, besides the default one. Each profile is an entirely separate browser state: settings, tabs, cookies, storage, cache, etc. You can use them simultaneously. (This has existed for as long as I can remember... since 0.9 and probably back to Netscape?)

Re: 2020 Mac Mini – Putting Apple Silicon M1 To The Test

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> He owns a license for Photoshop 6 Uh, I'm guessing you mean CS6 rather than Photoshop 6, the program that came out in 2000. In any case, Adobe's help page[1] currently reads, "As Creative Suite 6 is no longer sold or supported, platform or language exchanges are not available for it." Since they're certainly not selling or supporting versions older than CS6, it's unlikely your friend is going be able to keep Photos…

I'm talking about Photoshop 6 That's why I said "MacOS Sierra can't even run CS6" Technically in Italy if you bought a license and the manufacturer won't support it anymore, you can use it on another platform even downloading an illegal copy. As long as you have the original license. That's the same reason why you can listen to mp3s if you own the original record, you have the right to keep a copy and the right to us…

> I'm talking about Photoshop 6

I'll take your word for it, but it kind of changes the picture here. Photoshop 6 was released in 2000. That version wasn't released for OS X. In fact, Photoshop 6 was still compiled for PowerPC CPUs. The thing wasn't even fully "carbonized" until version 7, so it would have had to run in the "Classic" environment -- which hasn't been supported on Macs since OS X 10.4.

Maybe you think it's unreasonable for Apple to not support a program made for an operating system they haven't shipped a new version in 18 years for a CPU they haven't shipped in a computer for 15 years. I'm not sure I agree.

> Technically in Italy if you bought a license and the manufacturer won't support it anymore, you can use it on another platform even downloading an illegal copy.

The legality isn't the issue, the "Photoshop 6 is literally two decades old" is the issue. :) It may be possible to run the Windows version on Windows 10, but I can almost guarantee there will be strange, quirky issues that neither Microsoft nor Adobe will be interested in helping with.

Re: 2020 Mac Mini – Putting Apple Silicon M1 To The Test

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Chrome is just awful on a mac. I am not sure why anyone uses it. FF is much nicer to use.

I particularly like Chrome profiles. I have a few profiles with their own bookmarks/histories/open tabs/etc. For example, one of my profiles is "Shopping". Another is "Work" and yet another is "Social Media". Context switching profiles at a macro level - as opposed to intermingling work/shopping/social - is beneficial to me. When I switch over to "Shopping", I have my tabs on whatever purchase I'm researching open. I…

There are many extensions which implement workspaces in FF. You can do exactly the same thing + FF containers give you separation for cookies, etc.
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