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Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Now if only they'd give Kaepernick's tweet [0] equal treatment, to be even-handed. [0] https://twitter.com/Kaepernick7/status/1266046129906552832?s...

I don’t see Kap mentioning shooting anyone in that tweet? Either you linked the wrong one or you’re trying to paint a false equivalence.

Sure reads to me like it’s advocating for violent revolt, albeit far more eloquently. I think this is the fundamental problem: it’s all subjective.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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This entire event is effectively self-defense from a community that has felt terrorized by the police for decades. It could've been easily prevented by actually arresting someone that committed abject murder, but the city and the police chose to instead defend a man who has killed multiple people in the past and got away with it scott-free. So when people feel like justice no longer exists, there should be no surpris…

Yes, one only need to compare the police treatment of predominantly white, armed brigades storming government buildings in Michigan to what happened to the first wave of predominantly black, non-violent protests in Minneapolis to understand there are other forces at play here.

Or Oregon, where they took over a government facility, barricaded themselves in there, started armed patrols, fortifying and securing themselves in there...

... and were left alone for weeks, or more. Given some slaps on the wrist. And the tax payer footed the bill for the cleanup.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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As someone of mixed ethnicity who, if I was there could easily be victimized by a senseless mob to whom I owe nothing and have committed no crime against.. yea I am not happy with how the mainstream media promotes and covers this story, downplaying the victims of the chaos and sympathizing with outpourings of anger even if illegal. To clarify, looters should not be shot, law should prevail, and the policeman involved…

This entire event is effectively self-defense from a community that has felt terrorized by the police for decades. It could've been easily prevented by actually arresting someone that committed abject murder, but the city and the police chose to instead defend a man who has killed multiple people in the past and got away with it scott-free. So when people feel like justice no longer exists, there should be no surpris…

> This entire event is effectively self-defense from a community that has felt terrorized by the police for decades.

To put it with MLK: A riot is the voice of the unheard.

The systemic issues of the Black (and other foreigner) community across the Western societies, especially with police and laws specifically designed to target them (e.g. almost all drug legislation), have been ignored for way too long. I'm no friend of rioting myself but I will not judge upon those who have deemed it necessary to be finally heard.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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This is amazing news, and I hope Twitter adopts this policy for all rules violations. Much better than deleting tweet or banning accounts, this lets people decide what they want to see. (Except for obvious spammers etc. which should probably be banned.) Even better would be if there were user-configurable "lists", whereby you could decide upfront what you want / don't want to see (like many sites do right now with NS…

We can hope Twitter adopts and enforces policies equally across the board, but they won't and I don't think they can either. As an example of how they won't do so, consider that there are people literally organizing violent riots and destruction of property on Twitter right now, and they have not been banned or had their tweets/accounts hidden. Ilhan Omar's daughter was caught doing so herself, amplifying rioting sup…

It’s possible to have bias without editorialising, as far as I know Twitter only hides, deletes or bans. It doesn’t edit, the fact checking is appending.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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If most of the mistakes happen in one direction, then I would argue that there's some other mechanism at work than just "mistakes". Update: data https://quillette.com/2019/02/12/it-isnt-your-imagination-tw... Update: admission https://www.vox.com/2018/9/14/17857622/twitter-liberal-emplo...

Maybe conservative america needs to appeal to people smart enough to start their own tech companies, so they can compete in the free market to do things the way they like.

You mean people like Ellison and Thiel?

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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As someone of mixed ethnicity who, if I was there could easily be victimized by a senseless mob to whom I owe nothing and have committed no crime against.. yea I am not happy with how the mainstream media promotes and covers this story, downplaying the victims of the chaos and sympathizing with outpourings of anger even if illegal. To clarify, looters should not be shot, law should prevail, and the policeman involved…

Sure, but ideally the function of the state is prevent the formation of senseless mobs through even-handed treatment and a well-functioning justice system. When it fails to meet those expectations, people turn to other means to defend themselves and enact retribution.

This is human nature and the entire story of our history. Aeschylus even wrote about it:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oresteia

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

#638

As someone of mixed ethnicity who, if I was there could easily be victimized by a senseless mob to whom I owe nothing and have committed no crime against.. yea I am not happy with how the mainstream media promotes and covers this story, downplaying the victims of the chaos and sympathizing with outpourings of anger even if illegal. To clarify, looters should not be shot, law should prevail, and the policeman involved…

You are enabling a fascist government. You are complicit.

This is the strategy to vilify any movements from the people: focus on how they are acting violent, when this violence is very well in proportion to the enemy’s first move.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

#639

As someone of mixed ethnicity who, if I was there could easily be victimized by a senseless mob to whom I owe nothing and have committed no crime against.. yea I am not happy with how the mainstream media promotes and covers this story, downplaying the victims of the chaos and sympathizing with outpourings of anger even if illegal. To clarify, looters should not be shot, law should prevail, and the policeman involved…

This movement is about centuries of unjustness. To me, it is appropriate that the occasional bystander and business is overlooked. That doesn't mean that if you were my sibling, or friend, or business that I wouldn't be entitled to express personal pain. But the magnitude of my pain is nothing next to the pain that's led up to this, and no it wouldn't be appropriate for it to get remotely equal attention.

Sure, ideally bystanders and local businesses (in particular) would be spared. But nothing about the historical events leading to now is ideal.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

#640

As someone of mixed ethnicity who, if I was there could easily be victimized by a senseless mob to whom I owe nothing and have committed no crime against.. yea I am not happy with how the mainstream media promotes and covers this story, downplaying the victims of the chaos and sympathizing with outpourings of anger even if illegal. To clarify, looters should not be shot, law should prevail, and the policeman involved…

It could have all been ended before the rioting started if the police officer was charged for his actions. Obviously looting is wrong but peaceful protests obviously aren't working either.

He and his colleagues were immediately fired and he has since been charged for his actions. It hasn't even been a week, what more do you want?

edit: s/charged/arrested

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