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Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Post by basch » Thu, Dec 05, 2019, 1:51 PM UTC

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YouTube and Gmail are massive social networks.

I would debate both of those are social networks. Now I will grant you that in the past I would have considered YouTube one, but today it's just content delivery with comments.

Thats exactly what the facebook newsfeed is. A streaming feed of content, posted by publishers and users alike, and through likes, shares, and comments its popularity rises and it floats its way up the algorithm. Then when it gains reach, lots of people comment on it.

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Post by coachtrotz » Thu, Dec 05, 2019, 4:46 PM UTC

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That's years old news.

The investigation of executives to fend off shareholder lawsuits is less than a month old...

The investigation is supposed to wrap up early this month.

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Post by jiveturkey » Thu, Dec 05, 2019, 5:36 PM UTC

Wow, people are taking a press release at face value. Not just any press release (all are PR garbage) but one from Google, a master at corporate doublespeak.

This is an ouster at worst, a forced resignation at best.

Were I to guess, the politics-at-work thing as gotten out of hand. Larry and Sergey built the company in their image, in that specific way. One can easily imagine them bristling at the notion of having to take away employee freedoms.

Because they are not willing to do what needs to be done to quell the uprising, rather than see their company spiral down to darkness, they are stepping aside so that others may do what needs to be done.

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Post by patagurbon » Fri, Dec 06, 2019, 10:34 PM UTC

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I wouldn't expect to see a new kind of product coming out of Google. They have 0 track-record of product innovation. Their main innovation power is in the back-end, on the implementation side. Internet search existed before Google, but they came up with a newer and much better way of implementing it. Internet email existed before Gmail, but they vastly improved the offering. The iPhone already existed, but they came…

Waymo is a new kind of product coming out of Google, as was Chromecast, as is the so-far-successful Stadia. I'm there there are others, but those are a few I can think of off the top of my head that are delivering very well for the technical challenge they pose.

>stadia

Stadia is at best an incremental improvement to PS Now or OnLive afaik. Other companies, notably MSFT and Sony, have been developing this same stuff for years, and Nvidia even has their own version I think.

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Post by bb88 » Sat, Dec 07, 2019, 11:25 PM UTC

basch wrote: post #631

bb88 wrote: post #620

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I would debate both of those are social networks. Now I will grant you that in the past I would have considered YouTube one, but today it's just content delivery with comments.

Thats exactly what the facebook newsfeed is. A streaming feed of content, posted by publishers and users alike, and through likes, shares, and comments its popularity rises and it floats its way up the algorithm. Then when it gains reach, lots of people comment on it.

Facebook still has user to user messaging, Youtube does not.

Just because you have an algorithm that determines what should flow to the top of the main page, doesn't make it a social network.

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Post by kelnos » Tue, Dec 10, 2019, 10:08 PM UTC

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If I had created Google I would have peaced out looooong ago. Sure, I wouldn't disappear completely, but I'd work on low-stress things where I have a lot of free time and don't have so much responsibility under me.

> low-stress things where I have a lot of free time and don’t have so much res... Or children ;) John Lennon famously quit music for 5 years to raise his second child, after failing his first marriage.

Children... low-stress things... hmm, you seem to have different tastes than I do ;)

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Post by kelnos » Tue, Dec 10, 2019, 10:11 PM UTC

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If I had created Google I would have peaced out looooong ago. Sure, I wouldn't disappear completely, but I'd work on low-stress things where I have a lot of free time and don't have so much responsibility under me.

Create Google first and we will all see :-)

I'm looking at early retirement in the next year or two. I'm certainly not anywhere near as financially successful as Brin or Page or Pichai, and I doubt I've put in as much stressful work as they have, but I've done ok for myself, and I'm looking forward to doing literally anything I want with my time, without having to answer to anyone, whether it's a boss, investors, or board of directors.

I guess only time will tell how much I like this arrangement, but I'm pretty optimistic about it, and am tired of hearing the usual "oh but you'll be bored and want to work again" tropes. There's a lot more to life than work...