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Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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Is there anyone that even knows what "Domain join" means? If the button was there but hidden, would that count as "still there"? What if it was there but labeled "Click here to brick your computer"?

Anybody who has ever administered Windows PCs professionally at work should know what it means. I would not expect home users to know or care.

Not everyone running Windows PCs at work is in an enterprise environment with in-house IT specialists. Remember, most businesses are small businesses.

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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Deal is, big corps want it. Everything as a service. Easy to write off. Easy to ramp up and down as needed.

Macs are easy to write off too I am sure. Also going all in on Linux and donating to appropriate projects is another easy write off. Both of which do not have subscription services.

That kind of difference is invisible to the companies paying for IT services. They pay the IT vendor, IT vendor sorts it out. We already do this today.

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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The trope is backwards. If a business doesn't charge they have no choice but to make the user the product. If the user pays they have the option.

Not really though Look no further than TV manufacturers, the moment one of them decided to substitute below market prices with selling people’s data the others had to follow to stay competitive!

I still wonder how true this really is. Every time this subject comes up, all I seem to find are people who just want a good screen, and often who don't mind paying a higher price for it. Presumably there are also people who are sufficiently price-sensitive when buying a large flat-screen TV that the reduction from having bundled junkware makes a difference, but as far as I know, I have yet to meet one.

If anything, by now I'd say "smart TV fatigue" is setting in, much the same as "smartphone fatigue" a little while ago. Enough people have had these devices for long enough to see all the a-bit-too-clever software get out of date and stop working, and then they start to see the bundled online services and so on as a negative and start asking their more techie friends and family for advice on how to avoid the problems next time.

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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And your poll is showing most people here run Windows.

Currently the poll is 56%. It's barely a majority. My original commenting, say "many" don't use Windows, seems quite reasonable. Granted, this poll shouldn't be considered authoritative.

The rest is split between two other operating systems.

It's OK to admit you're wrong, you know.

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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Is there anyone that even knows what "Domain join" means? If the button was there but hidden, would that count as "still there"? What if it was there but labeled "Click here to brick your computer"?

Anybody who has ever administered Windows PCs professionally at work should know what it means. I would not expect home users to know or care.

> I would not expect home users to know

That's why MS renamed the button.

> or care

They do, else MS would not need those dark patterns.

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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To add on to what the other replier said - hilariously the monitor also doesn't come with VESA mounting holes standard - you have to buy an adapter separately for ~$100, so they screw you regardless of which stand option you want. Not sure why this was brought up under a reply about linux though.

Im sorry, but I really don't understand your perspective. Does Porsche screw their customers when they charge $500 for an oil change? Is Coach "screwing" it's customer by charging that much for a purse? High five audio devices often don't have cabling that consumer devices do - is that screwing the consumer? I can appreciate that you don't want to pay that much, but how is it "screwing"?

"Does Porsche screw their customers when they charge $500 for an oil change"

Uh, yes? Either they've designed their cars so that routine maintenance is unnecessarily difficult or they're overcharging for it, either way they're screwing you.

As an enthusiast it's been my experience that high end audio stuff is usually designed in a modular way and uses standard inputs and outputs and it's the cheaper, consumer grade gear that often uses stuff like non standard speaker inputs. Although the HiFi market certainly has it's own fair share of overpriced snake oil.

I don't know much about coach specifically so I won't comment on that, but there are plenty of handbag brands that exist purely as a status symbol and charge obscene amounts of money just because customers are willing to pay that much, and yes I also perceive that as dishonest.

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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>but how is it "screwing"? Because all you get for $1000 is a one nice stand?

Good thing the Apple Watch is such a good bargain then, since all you get from Rolex for $10000 is one nice watch. Not all things in technology are created for all people. If you think selling a $6000 screen with a $900 discount if you only need a VESA mount because you already have a $2000 desk & mount setup is absurd, you’re not the target market.

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